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Old Wed Jun 09, 2010, 10:15am
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He wasn't straight-lined because the lead shouldn't be getting rebound fouls of this nature...the center and trail have good lucks...blow your whistle.
Completely agree.

A push from behind on rebounding action is almost always more easily seen from the C and T. One of them should have called the foul. Since they didn't, forget it. Happens more often than it should.
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Old Wed Jun 09, 2010, 10:25am
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Completely agree.

A push from behind on rebounding action is almost always more easily seen from the C and T. One of them should have called the foul. Since they didn't, forget it. Happens more often than it should.
If there was a push on the play by player B, and the ball goes OOB, the resulting OOB violation on player B is perfectly acceptable in most game mgmt situations I've seen.

If the ball doesn't go OOB and team B recovers the rebound, then the C and/or T probably shouldn't pass on that call using a patient whistle.
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Old Wed Jun 09, 2010, 10:41am
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If there was a push on the play by player B, and the ball goes OOB, the resulting OOB violation on player B is perfectly acceptable in most game mgmt situations I've seen.

If the ball doesn't go OOB and team B recovers the rebound, then the C and/or T probably shouldn't pass on that call using a patient whistle.
You have to be careful, if there is a foul on team B and then the Lead gives the ball to team B you are going to come in with a very late whistle and get the foul?
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Old Wed Jun 09, 2010, 10:51am
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You have to be careful, if there is a foul on team B and then the Lead gives the ball to team B you are going to come in with a very late whistle and get the foul?
Who said anything about a "late" whistle?

Point taken. But, seriously, just pausing for that extra half sec or so can make a big difference in how that situation plays out.
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Old Wed Jun 09, 2010, 10:59am
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Who said anything about a "late" whistle?

Point taken. But, seriously, just pausing for that extra half sec or so can make a big difference in how that situation plays out.
Agreed. I'll delay my whistle, but I'll have one regardless. If I see my partner has a fist up, I'll drop my arm. If he just has his hand up, I'll close in and offer my opinion. It's possible he saw A1's foot on the line prior to the foul.
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Old Wed Jun 09, 2010, 05:01pm
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Make Up Calls ???

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If there was a push on the play by player B, and the ball goes OOB, the resulting OOB violation on player B is perfectly acceptable in most game situations I've seen.
I'm assuming that in the quote above that the ball actually went off player A, but the official chose to give the ball to Team A rather than call a foul against player B. If this is actually a close out of bounds call, and the possible foul is a close call as well, I've seen veteran officials make such a call. In fact, in the past, I've made this call myself several times. However, in this modern era, when every single play, in every single game, is videotaped by a coach, or a parent, in some cases with a cell phone, I am now hesitant to make such a call. Now, as the lead, I simply try as hard as I can to make the correct call, it's either out of bounds off player A, or it's a foul on Player B. If my partner, at the trail, wants of offer me some help, I'm more than glad to listen to the advice, but I try not to make up "make up calls" anymore.
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Old Thu Jun 10, 2010, 07:16am
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I'm assuming that in the quote above that the ball actually went off player A, but the official chose to give the ball to Team A rather than call a foul against player B. If this is actually a close out of bounds call, and the possible foul is a close call as well, I've seen veteran officials make such a call. In fact, in the past, I've made this call myself several times. However, in this modern era, when every single play, in every single game, is videotaped by a coach, or a parent, in some cases with a cell phone, I am now hesitant to make such a call. Now, as the lead, I simply try as hard as I can to make the correct call, it's either out of bounds off player A, or it's a foul on Player B. If my partner, at the trail, wants of offer me some help, I'm more than glad to listen to the advice, but I try not to make up "make up calls" anymore.
It's still the expected call in some areas, BillyMac.
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