Excessive swinging of elbows

[Judtech]

I am not taking you out of context, you obviously believe that Article 5 NOT Article 6 is the applicable rule on this play. IMO Article 6 is the supercendent rule application, especially in light of the Note section at the end.
I am not arguing the pivot, I am arguing the elbows.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I am not taking you out of context, you obviously believe that Article 5 NOT Article 6 is the applicable rule on this play. IMO Article 6 is the supercendent rule application, especially in light of the Note section at the end.
I am not arguing the pivot, I am arguing the elbows.

What rulebook are you looking at? I cited NCAA rule 4-36-7 out of THIS year's rule book. That's the applicable rule. I NEVER mentioned Article 5.

The play being discussed is a player with the ball pivoting and contacting a defender with an elbow DURING that pivot, as described by Hornet. How can you NOT argue the freaking pivot? The call depends SOLELY on whether A1 made a legal pivot.

That's enough for me tonight.

[Judtech]

You're right you said 7 not 5, typo on my part.
I was using the pivot foot, but I think you are using the entire movement as the pivot. In that case I am going to say that in the OP the pivot was illegal based on aritcle 6 and even if I was using article 7 I would look at item B. The 'vigor' part of speed and vigor would seem to come into play.
This is where the defense actions come into play. If they player is reaching over/around/under and is preventing the post player from pivoting then contact is on the defender. The plays I am thinking of in that situation make it difficult to impossible for the offensive player to get their elbows in position set forth in article 6.