"I'm 52 years old, and in all my years..."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You're leaving out a step. I say it's OK to criticize other officials. It's criticizing the criticism which is, in this case, creating the conflict.

In the old thread in question, the whole deal was about giving my partner info and allowing him to correct an erroneous GT call. In passing, I mentioned that both of us were somewhat behind where we might like to have been on the play because 17 year olds run faster than we do. (couldn't keep up with 'em then, can't now) Rut popped off about how he could keep up and what great shape he was/is in. (which actually had nothing to do with the thread and the matter at hand) I offered him the opportunity to describe where he would have positioned himself before, during, and after the play, but he was never heard from again. Go figure.

I decided not to respond because it is pointless talking to you. Why say something to someone that knows what I already think or what I already feel.

Having a discussion with you is like having a discussion with some girl I once dated about some issue we argued about 10 years ago. Not only is it not fun, but it is totally unnecessary.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Having a discussion with you is like having a discussion with some girl I once dated about some issue we argued about 10 years ago. Not only is it not fun, but it is totally unnecessary.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Gee, JAR, didya forget about this thread when you made the "criticizing other officials" remark above?

Vote of Confidence?

The point is you are criticizing this guy for criticizing other officials. when you were guilty of exactly the same thing.

Comment? Or y'all just gonna disappear from this thread?


This forum is better than Oprah some days.

And the funny part he went to people in the game and sold out his partner. Wow!!! That is something I would never do or even share. I do not go around telling partners or coaches how bad I feel my partner is. I only talk about partners to very close people or if asked by assignors that assigned the game what I might think. I do not even like selling out someone in a camp setting if I am the only one there doing the evaluations and the people they are trying to work for are not there.

There is a big difference between talking about something here and referencing things people tell you, then going to my real life officiating and selling out partners or acting like an azz because an official does not work like I do. Good Lord and JAR is on me about what I said about him? Really, that is funny. No wonder I ignore his threads normally.

Peace

[DLH17]

This thread has become more than I ever dreamed it would be.

A big THANK YOU to all participants, hijackers and otherwise.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by DLH17

This thread has become more than I ever dreamed it would be.

You dreamed about this thread?

[Judtech]

As someone who has been properly chasitsed for critical comments on officials, let me add my .02.
You think you have it rough watching what you say about local officials. Try being as close as I am with a person who has coached in the area for 25 years!! While she is not above having game film set up for me to watch she doesn't do it as often becuase she says "You ALWAYS side with the officials when I show you something" I usually just give her advice on a way to handle or approach officials the next time, i.e.: use words like displace, hot stove etc, avoid saying "3 seconds" ; get them off etc. ( Of course, this also lands me on the sofa from time to time, but at least our big screen and XBOX are out here so that helps!!!)
I usually hear from all the officials that work her games and we get good laughs out of it sometimes. I usually tell them they need to "T" her more b/c I am tired of hearing "I only have 4 technical fouls in 25 years of coaching". I think we need to get that number up around an even dozen!!!

How's THAT for thread hijacking?

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by grunewar

You dreamed about this thread?

some of us dream of performing in that big game....i dream of starting ginormous officiating.com basketball threads

/blue font

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by DLH17

My POV is "completely" off? Interesting. Not according to my assignor. He asks for 4 things from his officials: be on time = 15 mins early, call fouls/violations, don't say anything to anyone you don't want repeated and be in position to make calls = hustle.
...

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I noticed switching on all fouls and reporting fouls from the proper reporting area on not on his list.

Originally Posted by DLH17

Falls under the category of "hustling", no?

Re-read your original post. I don't see how you come about that conclusion. You listed 4 specific requirements laid out by your assignor.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Judtech

As someone who has been properly chasitsed for critical comments on officials, let me add my .02.
You think you have it rough watching what you say about local officials. Try being as close as I am with a person who has coached in the area for 25 years!! While she is not above having game film set up for me to watch she doesn't do it as often becuase she says "You ALWAYS side with the officials when I show you something" I usually just give her advice on a way to handle or approach officials the next time, i.e.: use words like displace, hot stove etc, avoid saying "3 seconds" ; get them off etc. ( Of course, this also lands me on the sofa from time to time, but at least our big screen and XBOX are out here so that helps!!!)
I usually hear from all the officials that work her games and we get good laughs out of it sometimes. I usually tell them they need to "T" her more b/c I am tired of hearing "I only have 4 technical fouls in 25 years of coaching". I think we need to get that number up around an even dozen!!!

How's THAT for thread hijacking?

I love it! Good stuff.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Re-read your original post. I don't see how you come about that conclusion. You listed 4 specific requirements laid out by your assignor.

those are 4 main criteria. of course, he periodically sends e-mail blasts and tells us in person at meetings additional things that he likes for us to do (or not do) on the court. not sure he's ever just sent a comprehensive be all end all list of is "things to do". but, those are the some of the things that have stuck with me over the years.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Works for me. Do we hug now?

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Get a room.

Shut up!!! That applies to whomever the shoe fits on.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Shut up!!! That applies to whomever the shoe fits on.

Reminds me of a story. High school debate competition colocated with high school wrestling meet one weekend. School's cafeteria is open, and the line is mixed with students from both competitions.

Wrestler: "Where's the salt at?"
Debater: "You're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition."
Wrestler: "Okay, where's the salt at, a$$hole."

[Upward ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Reminds me of a story. High school debate competition colocated with high school wrestling meet one weekend. School's cafeteria is open, and the line is mixed with students from both competitions.

Wrestler: "Where's the salt at?"
Debater: "You're not supposed to end a sentence with a preposition."
Wrestler: "Okay, where's the salt at, a$$hole."

You mean I could have skipped 9 whole pages of crap and came straight to the punch line ? Seems like that could almost be the # 1 rule of forum officiating

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Upward ref

Seems like that could almost be the #1 rule of forum officiating.

I only wish that was the number one rule. It isn't. Hopefully Mark Padgett won't read the post. In any case, please don't ask him about the number one rule. Consider yourself warned.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I only wish that was the number one rule. It isn't. Hopefully Mark Padgett won't read the post. In any case, please don't ask him about the number one rule. Consider yourself warned.

You realize that all the refs who don't know the #1 rule could suffer greatly.