"I'm 52 years old, and in all my years..."

[bainsey]

I worked one years ago with the director of a rec league, who administrates for a living, but doesn't officiate.

Late in a game and during a time out, he comes to me and says, "Okay, number 20 has four fouls. Let's make sure the last one isn't a marginal one." I heartily explain to him that I never, ever want to know how many fouls a player has, because it can indeed compromise one's judgment and integrity.

"Well," he ponders as he looks away, "let's just agree to disagree."

[tref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I heartily explain to him that I never, ever want to know how many fouls a player has, because it can indeed compromise one's judgment and integrity.

Really?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Local competitive leagues - 5/6 grade and 7/8 grade.

Originally Posted by DLH17

If you don't want to run your butt off and risk injury for a competitive tournament game, don't.

I think this discussion has more or less defined "hustle" for competitive tournament games, tho. And, it would obviously be something less than a Tues/Fri night boys big class varsity game.

No matter how you try to sugar coat it, it is still just a little kids game that is paying about half (or less) of the normal rate.

Originally Posted by DLH17

My POV is "completely" off? Interesting. Not according to my assignor. He asks for 4 things from his officials: be on time = 15 mins early, call fouls/violations, don't say anything to anyone you don't want repeated and be in position to make calls = hustle.

Yes, you're off.

Your biggest type of complaints in the early part of the thread seemed to be not switching and not coming to mid-court to report. Yet, the assignor's 4 items don't include anything about that. Not switching has nothing to do with being in position to make calls.

Originally Posted by DLH17

And, to be honest, I'm appalled by the lack of hustle and interest on the part of the officials working some of her games. Little to no switching, reporting from the baseline by the lead official, no bump and run.

While there are a few that probably don't hustle to be in position, most offiicals I know do hustle while the ball is live and cut the corners in the dead ball mechanics....the stuff that has basically no effect 99% of the time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I worked one years ago with the director of a rec league, who administrates for a living, but doesn't officiate.

Late in a game and during a time out, he comes to me and says, "Okay, number 20 has four fouls. Let's make sure the last one isn't a marginal one." I heartily explain to him that I never, ever want to know how many fouls a player has, because it can indeed compromise one's judgment and integrity.

"Well," he ponders as he looks away, "let's just agree to disagree."

I smile and say ok. If I'm feeling ornery, I'd ask, "so which of the first four do you think were marginal?"

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I worked one years ago with the director of a rec league, who administrates for a living, but doesn't officiate.

Late in a game and during a time out, he comes to me and says, "Okay, number 20 has four fouls. Let's make sure the last one isn't a marginal one." I heartily explain to him that I never, ever want to know how many fouls a player has, because it can indeed compromise one's judgment and integrity.

"Well," he ponders as he looks away, "let's just agree to disagree."

Hmmm. fan comes out of the stands to talk to the referee? Sounds like an easy EJ to me. Don't care what your day job is - once the game starts everyone in the stands is just a fan.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Hmmm. fan comes out of the stands to talk to the referee?

No, this was my partner, who just filled in as an official.