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Old Fri May 21, 2010, 07:20am
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1 - Appears to be a travel despite his hand being on top of the ball and him pushing down before the back foot lifts, it doesn't appear to leave his hand until well after the back foot is moving. *Tweet* Travel

2 - I've got nothing here. There is some contact no one is more responsible for it, and from the camera angle smells like bail out. PLay on fellas.

3 - This one burns me a little bit. I know coach of the defensive team wants the call. His kid is boxing out, the contact is minimal by the offense but its all the defender can do. I'm not a fan of the bigger stronger more athletic player getting to create contact , end up with the ball, and the helpless (hapless) defender is unable to do anything about it except try to do the right thing without being rewarded. All that aside by rule that appears to be a clean board. Play on fellas.

"I know coach I know, sometimes your just up against it. The contact is not what's gaining the advantage . . . Your kids are working hard but to be fair David didn't try to box out Goliath . . . yes it would be a flagrant, but you didn't see Goliath getting any boards in the 2nd half did you!!!"
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Old Fri May 21, 2010, 07:32am
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I agree that there is probably nothing, from this limited angle, on the potential PC or rebounding action.

To those who are saying travel, do you mean at the beginning of the drive or at the end?

At the beginning, I still can't tell if whether he releases the ball or lifts his pivot first.

At the end, it appears to me (although, again not clear), that he ends his dribble with neither foot on the floor.
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Old Fri May 21, 2010, 08:35am
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To those who are saying travel, do you mean at the beginning of the drive or at the end?....

At the beginning, I still can't tell if whether he releases the ball or lifts his pivot first.
The pivot foot comes up first. It's not easy to catch at normal speed, but every game we work is at normal speed.
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Old Fri May 21, 2010, 08:37am
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every game we work is at normal speed.
Except middle school girls . . .
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Old Fri May 21, 2010, 09:41am
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no travel
no block/charge - from this angle it looked like a flop.
rebound was fine - hard to see if contact occured that gained an advantage.
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Old Fri May 21, 2010, 09:45am
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no travel
Given that you're the only one who says this. What did you see?
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Old Fri May 21, 2010, 09:57am
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Given that you're the only one who says this. What did you see?
Probably the same thing the officials on the game saw? I'm with you SNAQdaddy that the video and the angle make it tough to tell. That being the case a 'wise" OLD man once said that if you are not there you shouldn't criticize, that would be like eating your young!!!
In all seriousness, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to the NO CALLS made in this situation. While everyone agrees that we had a flop and no rebounding foul, the case for traveling is being made with a lot of "seems" "appears" etc. While I would fall into that "appears" "from this angle" crowd, since I am not 100% I'll defer to the people there.
(Unless my earlier post about the location was correct then I stand by my original thoughts!)
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Old Fri May 21, 2010, 02:38pm
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Travel...

It is grainy but once he picks up the ball (or appears to) there is a step and then then two more because his "jump stop" has two distinct steps it has to be travel...

If this is a marginal travel call then I call way too many...
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Old Sun May 23, 2010, 05:50pm
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Given that you're the only one who says this. What did you see?
I saw a player who clearly established his left foot as his pivot foot on the catch. I saw a player start a drive to his right using his right foot to start the drive. I saw a player alight nearly simultaneously (aka jump stop) before jumping to release his shot.

At no point did I see a travel violation committed by the offensive player.

IMHO, the only place that I can see someone calling a travel would be on the jump stop - and even then, I would disagree with that call.
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