Loud Slap

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Would you have called the foul as I did? Or would you have applied advantage/disadvantage?

I am probably going to call this a foul...I would prefer to get those slapping/grabbing/reaching-type fouls that occur when a defensive rebound has been controlled so that I don't have a rebounder swinging his elbows at/near the face of an opponent ("since the ref won't get this guy off of me, I guess I'll have to do it", says the rebounder). Then I've got all kinds of issues I've got to deal with....(did the elbow make contact? is that intentional? is it flagrant? what happens when similar elbow contact occurs in a different situation later in the game? etc.)

When you call this a foul, players quickly learn NOT to do that (slap/grab/etc) and simply run back down court on defense.

[Tio]

Guidelines for rebounding fouls:

1. Possession/Consequence

2. Cleanup

This play falls under #2. I think when everyone sees/hears, you have to penalize. If you let it go, the offensive player may throw and elbow next time.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

When you call this a foul, players quickly learn NOT to do that (slap/grab/etc) and simply run back down court on defense.

That's what I think. If you don't call it, you could be sending a message that you condone it.

Slapping at the ball is usually risky, because you might make contact with something else other than the hand. If B1 did this, you have nothing to ponder.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That's what I think. If you don't call it, you could be sending a message that you condone it.

Slapping at the ball is usually risky, because you might make contact with something else other than the hand. If B1 did this, you have nothing to ponder.

Just playing devil's advocate, but who are we to want the players to turn and run back downcourt on defense? I'd be just as happy if he stopped slapping at the ball, but that's allowed too, so why should I want it to stop?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Just playing devil's advocate, but who are we to want the players to turn and run back downcourt on defense?

Where'd you get that idea? I was only talking about the risks of slapping.

[GoodwillRef]

Call the foul...they get 5 of them.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Call the foul...they get 5 of them.

But by rule, it's not a foul. Why would you call it and penalize the offense?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Call the foul...they get 5 of them.

Why is it a foul? If you intend to move up to varsity ball, you have to let this go.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Where'd you get that idea? I was only talking about the risks of slapping.

Maybe from this exchange?

Originally Posted by jeffpea

When you call this a foul, players quickly learn NOT to do that (slap/grab/etc) and simply run back down court on defense.

Originally Posted by bainsey

That's what I think. If you don't call it, you could be sending a message that you condone it.

Slapping at the ball is usually risky, because you might make contact with something else other than the hand. If B1 did this, you have nothing to ponder.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Maybe from this exchange?

Jeff said "run down the court." I was only referring to the slap.