Dribbling During Inbounds Plays

[APG]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

As I don't have access to it, I can only ask you, does 17.3.1 specify "during a throw-in pass" or similar language?

17.3.1 A player taking a throw-in shall not:

• Take more than five (5) seconds to release the ball.
• Step into the playing court while having the ball in his hand(s).
• Cause the ball to touch out-of-bounds, after it has been released on the throwin.
• Touch the ball on the playing court before it has touched another player.
• Cause the ball to enter the basket directly.
• Move a total distance from the designated throw-in place, laterally in one or in both directions, to exceed a total of one (1) metre before or while releasing the ball. He is, however, permitted to move directly backwards from the line as far as circumstances allow.

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

• Cause the ball to touch out-of-bounds, after it has been released on the throwin.

The NFHS wording is similar, but the point is that the ball can touch out-of-bounds on a dribble, provided the dribble is not part of the throw-in-pass. Same thing applies to a pass to a teammate who is also out-of-bounds after a made (or awarded) goal - it is not a throw-in-pass, therefore, it is not subject to the restriction that prohibits the ball from touching out-of-bounds.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by sseltser

The NFHS wording is similar, but the point is that the ball can touch out-of-bounds on a dribble, provided the dribble is not part of the throw-in-pass. Same thing applies to a pass to a teammate who is also out-of-bounds after a made (or awarded) goal - it is not a throw-in-pass, therefore, it is not subject to the restriction that prohibits the ball from touching out-of-bounds.

Strictly speaking it's not a dribble. It is merely a bounce. That's because neither the dribbling nor traveling rules operate during a throw-in.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by nike22

why?

Because the rules say so.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Because the rules say so.

Would it also be fair to say that neither dribbling nor travelling can exist without player control?

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Would it also be fair to say that neither dribbling nor travelling can exist without player control?

Dribbling a live ball inbounds is one way to have player control - so it is fair to say that.

Travelling can not occur* without holding the ball and holding the ball is one way to have player control - so it is fair to say that.

*with one exception.

[just another ref]

I think the point was that bouncing the ball on the floor by the thrower during the throw-in does not meet the definition of a dribble.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Would it also be fair to say that neither dribbling nor travelling can exist without player control?

Yes, but only because player control is defined as one of these two events.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

17.3.1 A player taking a throw-in shall not:

• Take more than five (5) seconds to release the ball.
• Step into the playing court while having the ball in his hand(s).
• Cause the ball to touch out-of-bounds, after it has been released on the throwin.• Touch the ball on the playing court before it has touched another player.
• Cause the ball to enter the basket directly.
• Move a total distance from the designated throw-in place, laterally in one or in both directions, to exceed a total of one (1) metre before or while releasing the ball. He is, however, permitted to move directly backwards from the line as far as circumstances allow.

Thanks.
As sseltser notes, the key is "after it has been released on the throwin."