after patient whistle

tref · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 31, 2010, 12:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsl

Sometimes, patient whistle means calling something incidental because you can see how it is going to turn out.

Sounds like anticipating a call. Incidental is not a foul, by rule. Care to elaborate?

rsl · #2 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 31, 2010, 12:40pm

I mean that incidental depends on what happens and skill level. If the bump in the OP had caused the dribbler to lose the ball, it would not be incidental. But, it didn't and he was still on track for his layup, so it was incidental.

tref · #3 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 31, 2010, 12:47pm

Gotcha! Upgrading what was incidental to a foul after seeing the whole play is good thing

Adam · #4 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 31, 2010, 12:52pm

I'll just add that just because a player loses the ball after a bump does not mean there was a foul. You have to judge whether the bump caused it or not; sometimes players just lose the ball and any previous contact, no matter how recent, did not cause it.

Jesse James · #5 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 31, 2010, 12:56pm

And if B2 swoops out of nowhere to cleanly swat the "easy" lay-up?

Now do you whistle the initial bump?

Berkut · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 31, 2010, 01:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse James

And if B2 swoops out of nowhere to cleanly swat the "easy" lay-up?

Now do you whistle the initial bump?

I am probably not a very good official, but at that point I am thinking "Well, what caused that ball to not go in the basket? Was it that bump, or the fact that B2 just sent it into the stands?"

I got nothing then.

Adam · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 31, 2010, 01:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse James

And if B2 swoops out of nowhere to cleanly swat the "easy" lay-up?

Now do you whistle the initial bump?

Why? What did the bump do?

Jesse James · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 31, 2010, 01:11pm

Cause A1 to get to the hoop a bit slower?

tref · #9 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 31, 2010, 01:13pm

And not get off the ground as high as he/she could have.

That would be a tough call to make, it could be sold with some verbal at the spot & strong mechnics though...

BillyMac · #10 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 31, 2010, 06:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse James

And if B2 swoops out of nowhere to cleanly swat the "easy" lay-up? Now do you whistle the initial bump?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse James

Cause A1 to get to the hoop a bit slower?

How could you do that to Sandra Bullock, America's Sweetheart?

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