Politically incorrect?

[Mark Padgett]

In this day and age, I'm somewhat surprised that announcers (and coaches, for that matter) refer to defense in women's games as "man-to-man". I know it's kind of petty to think that's insulting, but with things the way they are, especially since Title 9 came into being, one would think that phrase would not continue to be used in those games.

Again - no big deal to me, but I'm just surprised the term is still used.

And no - I'm not suggesting they say "chick-to-chick", although it would be more entertaining to male viewers.

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

In this day and age, I'm somewhat surprised that announcers (and coaches, for that matter) refer to defense in women's games as "man-to-man". I know it's kind of petty to think that's insulting, but with things the way they are, especially since Title 9 came into being, one would think that phrase would not continue to be used in those games.

Again - no big deal to me, but I'm just surprised the term is still used.

And no - I'm not suggesting they say "chick-to-chick", although it would be more entertaining to male viewers.

Well in that case Mark we need American Airlines to get of the cock pit in their jets!

[mbyron]

'Man-to-man' refers to a traditional defensive strategy, and nobody's come up with a plausible gender inclusive alternative.

Weirder to me is the coach shouting to her girls: "find your man!" Makes it feel like Sadie Hawkins Day!

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Weirder to me is the coach shouting to her girls: "find your man!" Makes it feel like Sadie Hawkins Day!

Alright, that took me waaaay back. Wow!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

'Man-to-man' refers to a traditional defensive strategy, and nobody's come up with a plausible gender inclusive alternative.

Weirder to me is the coach shouting to her girls: "find your man!" Makes it feel like Sadie Hawkins Day!

Originally Posted by grunewar

Alright, that took me waaaay back. Wow!

the high school near us has a notice for their upcoming Sadie Hawkins dance.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Makes it feel like Sadie Hawkins Day!

For those of you not familiar with Lil' Abner:

[Nevadaref]

I think that Juulie once got a little huffy about this a few years back and recommended that it be called "person-to-person" defense.

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I think that Juulie once got a little huffy about this a few years back and recommended that it be called "person-to-person" defense.

Actually, I acknowledged that "person-to-person" would be ridiculous. What I advocated for was "one-to-one". I still don't understand why that hasn't caught on, but I don't hear or see any girls/women players or coaches of women or girls using this. I agree that "Get your man" or "pick up your man" sounds strange. But it seems that others don't, or they don't worry about it. So I've quit mentioning it or thinking about it. If I'm gonna fight a hopeless battle, it's gonna be about something more important.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I know it's kind of petty to think that's insulting, but with things the way they are, especially since Title 9 came into being, one would think that phrase would not continue to be used in those games.

That's insulting? Disagree. That's amazingly petty. Astoundingly petty. Beyond belief petty. PC out-of-control petty.

Just my petty opinion.....

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That's insulting? Disagree. That's amazingly petty. Astoundingly petty. Beyond belief petty. PC out-of-control petty.

Just my petty opinion.....

IMO it's not merely PC. For a very brief, fact-based account of gendered pronouns, see Carolyn Jacobson's (Penn) handout:
http://www.english.upenn.edu/~cjacobso/gender.html

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

IMO it's not merely PC. For a very brief, fact-based account of gendered pronouns, see Carolyn Jacobson's (Penn) handout:
http://www.english.upenn.edu/~cjacobso/gender.html

The "handbook of non-sexist writing", eh? "Mankind" is now a bad word?

"Fact-based"?

OK.......

This is a no-win argument and a wobw. I'm done.