Politically incorrect?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Makes it feel like Sadie Hawkins Day!

For those of you not familiar with Lil' Abner:

[Nevadaref]

I think that Juulie once got a little huffy about this a few years back and recommended that it be called "person-to-person" defense.

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I think that Juulie once got a little huffy about this a few years back and recommended that it be called "person-to-person" defense.

Actually, I acknowledged that "person-to-person" would be ridiculous. What I advocated for was "one-to-one". I still don't understand why that hasn't caught on, but I don't hear or see any girls/women players or coaches of women or girls using this. I agree that "Get your man" or "pick up your man" sounds strange. But it seems that others don't, or they don't worry about it. So I've quit mentioning it or thinking about it. If I'm gonna fight a hopeless battle, it's gonna be about something more important.

[Nevadaref]

Thanks for setting the record and my memory straight.

[just another ref]

Many years ago, when the women's game was first achieving national prominence, I remember a coach saying something like:

We play man to man defense. Person to person is a telephone call.


Hear all the young guys saying huh?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

If I'm gonna fight a hopeless battle, it's gonna be about something more important.

We should talk to Billy about copywriting this for you.

[Raymond]

I've heard plenty of female coaches of female teams say "man-to-man" when referring to non-zone defenses.

[Welpe]

I've heard more than a few female coaches yell "MAN UP!" to their female players. Always makes me wonder a little.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I've heard more than a few female coaches yell "MAN UP!" to their female players. Always makes me wonder a little.

Reminds me of something a friend told me years ago. "My son's hockey team has a girl now. It gives new meaning to the phrase 'man down.'"

Anyway, I've heard some coaches use "player to player." I like accuracy, but I think this takes it too far.

The late, great George Carlin once said, "I believe it should be 'humankind' instead on 'mankind,' but if you tell me that thing in the street is a 'person-hole cover', I think that's going too far."

[Camron Rust]

May I direct your attention to Man | Define Man at Dictionary.com and the three meanings quoted below.

man

¹  /mæn/ Show Spelled [man] Show IPA noun,pluralmen, verb,manned, man·ning, interjection
–noun
2. a member of the species Homo sapiens or all the members of this species collectively, without regard to sex: prehistoric man.
3. the human individual as representing the species, without reference to sex; the human race; humankind: Man hopes for peace, but prepares for war.
4. a human being; person: to give a man a chance; When the audience smelled the smoke, it was every man for himself.

The proper definition of the word is pretty clear in that it can properly be used in both ways. To argue that it is incorrect to use man in the context of females is simply being PC just to be PC.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

May I direct your attention to Man | Define Man at Dictionary.com and the three meanings quoted below.

man

¹  /mæn/ Show Spelled [man] Show IPA noun,pluralmen, verb,manned, man·ning, interjection
–noun
2. a member of the species Homo sapiens or all the members of this species collectively, without regard to sex: prehistoric man.
3. the human individual as representing the species, without reference to sex; the human race; humankind: Man hopes for peace, but prepares for war.
4. a human being; person: to give a man a chance; When the audience smelled the smoke, it was every man for himself.

The proper definition of the word is pretty clear in that it can properly be used in both ways. To argue that it is incorrect to use man in the context of females is simply being PC just to be PC.

Camron, I agree, but there are some individuals out there who think that such terms and pronouns do not accord females the proper amount of respect. Perhaps a solid course in the English language would be helpful for them.