Duke/Baylor

[doubleringer]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

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I will say that I don't like him making the call of a T here when his partner is the one who jumps between Acy and Smith and has the best vantage point on the situation. I believe that he should have left the decision on how to handle it to him.

I thought that maybe his partner was a little too close to the action and didn't see everything develop. Sometimes in these types of situations, the official that isn't in the middle of things gets a better look at everything going on. I thought Thornley did the right thing in not getting into the middle of things and letting the other two officials break things up, watching the whole play, and then dealing with it. I think they got it right. Just my opinion of course.

The block/charge was a GREAT call, tough one at a tough time of the game. Thats why those guys are out there and I'm sitting at home watching.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by doubleringer

I thought that maybe his partner was a little too close to the action and didn't see everything develop.

Not possible.

If you watch the replay, his partner comes running in from afar. The action which warranted the T had already taken place when he arrived. He was simply preventing an escalation of the matter.

[doubleringer]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Not possible.

If you watch the replay, his partner comes running in from afar. The action which warranted the T had already taken place when he arrived. He was simply preventing an escalation of the matter.

Was he possibly focused on getting the players separated and didn't see the whole play? I just thought Thornley was sitting back, in a good position to see it all, and took care of business.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by doubleringer

Was he possibly focused on getting the players separated and didn't see the whole play? I just thought Thornley was sitting back, in a good position to see it all, and took care of business.

I thought that he ran over in response to the altercation, not prior to it.

If that is the case, then he would have likely observed the action from an even better angle than Thornley, but as I said already, in the end, the right call was made.

[Camron Rust]

The charge...while I agree with the call, it was not consistent with a how they've been called in many of the games I've watched. I've seen call after call go to a block when the defender had better position.

The T...no question. Correct call.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The charge...while I agree with the call, it was not consistent with a how they've been called in many of the games I've watched. I've seen call after call go to a block when the defender had better position.

You mean like the 2 blocks called on Prince from Tennessee within 3 seconds yesterday? The second one, especially, I thought would've been a strong PC foul.

[David M]

Am I wrong or should a Duke player (Thomas, I think) been called for basket interference? Instead the two points were counted and a defensive foul called resulting in a 3 point play.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

You mean like the 2 blocks called on Prince from Tennessee within 3 seconds yesterday? The second one, especially, I thought would've been a strong PC foul.

Don't know if there are any differences between NCAA and NFHS on this or not, but in NFHS there are only 3 ways to lose a legal guarding position--1) move toward the ball handler at the time of contact; 2) ball handler gets head and shoulders past front of torso of defender; 3) defender is out of bounds. The contact on the front of the torso is a clear indicator of legal guarding position for a non-shooting ball handler, the fact he was moving backwards at the time means he wasn't moving forward, and he was clearly inbounds. 2nd was easily PC and I'm pretty sure the 1st would have been as well.

In the Duke/Baylor call, Zubek never got the front of his torso facing him, clearly indicated in the fact that the contact was in the "side-panel" area of the jersey (Zubek was definitely not turning to absorb contact). Block.