School alleges discrimination by Philly refs

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Ah, the Bleacher Report. Probably the most anti-official blog I've seen. What a credible source.

Well, it's as credible as the person who cited it.....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Do you ref?

Originally Posted by mutantducky

I was thinking of the Dirk ejection and mixed up Crawford with Bill Kennedy, easy mistake. Different story but just saw this.
NBA Referee Bill Kennedy Fined for His Antics, Union Cries Foul | Bleacher Report

Yeah tech are a separate issue. I think many refs will call a foul that favors a player or team that had been given a T but I will say that if a team before is showing that they are undisciplined, constantly arguing calls, then it MIGHT lead to refs calling more fouls against them or not calling fouls when they could go either way.

So your answer is "no," then?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

OK - I'll get down off my soapbox now. BTW - my best man at my wedding 31 years ago was a black male and we're still good friends. Also BTW - I know it's not politically correct (and I'm certainly not) but I don't hyphenate the word "American". Every citizen of this country is an American - end of story.

OK - I'll really get down off my soapbox now.

There is a difference between race and ethnicity. Being Black is my race. Being African-American is my ethnicity. And since many in this country call themselves Italian, French, Irish, Russian and Mexican, I think it is only right and makes since to label myself what I know I am. I am a decedent of African, not a descendant of America. There were only one group of people that were genetically from this country and it was not people that look like me or you. But the one thing I cannot do like many of those who are not Black (and there are many Blacks that can go back to other countries BTW), I cannot trace my heritage directly to a "tribe" or Klan (which they are really called BTW) like you and many others could. So to keep a since of my heritage and culture, I choose to call myself African-American. If I could I would consider myself Nigerian-American or South African-American like a famous actress can. And when I go to the World Cup I could cheer for my home country if they were participating (I know a joke is coming), but I cannot do that. And it matters to me that the people that I come from were not allowed to hold citizenship and were slaves. So no, I will never just be American. I cannot trace my background like a fellow official friend of mine who knows how is name was changed to reflect coming to America, rather than hold on to the language his Grandfather spoke. And all of that is important when it is obvious that a lot of my values did not come directly and only from this country.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There is a difference between race and ethnicity. Being Black is my race. Being African-American is my ethnicity. And since many in this country call themselves Italian, French, Irish, Russian and Mexican, I think it is only right and makes since to label myself what I know I am. I am a decedent of African, not a descendant of America.

I was born in the United States of America, as was my father, and my grandfather. On that level I consider myself to be an American. My great grandfather, and great great grandfather, were born in Ireland, so on that level I consider myself to be Irish American. Homo sapiens arose in Africa and migrated out of the continent around 50-100,000 years ago, so if you go back far enough in my family tree, I can be considered to be African American. In fact, JRutledge and I have a common ancestor, Mitochondrial Eve, the most recent common matrilineal ancestor from whom all living humans are descended. She is generally estimated to have lived around 200,000 years ago, most likely in East Africa.

So JRutledge? Since we're related, can I borrow twenty bucks?

[mutantducky]

off topic
a bit too detailed at times but a book called Arc of Justice is quite good about race in America. So is Contempt of Court
Amazon.com: Contempt of Court: The Turn-of-the-Century Lynching That Launched a Hundred Years of Federalism (9780385720823): Mark Curriden, Leroy Phillips: Books

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

So JRutledge? Since we're related, can I borrow twenty bucks?

If you give me $1000, then we are cool.

Peace

[mutantducky]

where's Antoine Walker when you need him?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

where's Antoine Walker when you need him?

I am not sure he has that kind of money.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There is a difference between race and ethnicity. Being Black is my race. Being African-American is my ethnicity. And since many in this country call themselves Italian, French, Irish, Russian and Mexican, I think it is only right and makes since to label myself what I know I am. I am a decedent of African, not a descendant of America. There were only one group of people that were genetically from this country and it was not people that look like me or you. But the one thing I cannot do like many of those who are not Black (and there are many Blacks that can go back to other countries BTW), I cannot trace my heritage directly to a "tribe" or Klan (which they are really called BTW) like you and many others could. So to keep a since of my heritage and culture, I choose to call myself African-American. If I could I would consider myself Nigerian-American or South African-American like a famous actress can. And when I go to the World Cup I could cheer for my home country if they were participating (I know a joke is coming), but I cannot do that. And it matters to me that the people that I come from were not allowed to hold citizenship and were slaves. So no, I will never just be American. I cannot trace my background like a fellow official friend of mine who knows how is name was changed to reflect coming to America, rather than hold on to the language his Grandfather spoke. And all of that is important when it is obvious that a lot of my values did not come directly and only from this country.

Peace

Giving your statement some thought, I'm going to add on to my ethnicity, I'm going from American to Broke-American.

[Welpe]

Jeff, thanks for that explanation. That makes a lot of sense to me and I can respect that.

I call myself American because it'd take up a line and a half to accurately describe my lineage. Answering questions 8 and 9 on the Census this year was rather interesting.

Also, $1000 in exchange for $20? Maybe you're of Nigerian Royalty. How's the e-mail business going?