Being a Smart-*** Player

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If you continually do it, or do it before I can make the call, then yes.

Especially if you are looking directly at me giving body language as if to say "come on ref, this is the call."

[DLH17]

Put me in the group of officials that don't really care if a head coach points one direction or another when the ball goes OOB. Everyone has an opinion and I don't mind coach trying to finesse it a little bit. Doesn't bother me.

What is annoying to me is the coach that has the habit of saying "THANK YOU" after calls that favor his team....as if I'm there to accommodate his team.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Put me in the group of officials that don't really care if a head coach points one direction or another when the ball goes OOB. Everyone has an opinion and I don't mind coach trying to finesse it a little bit. Doesn't bother me.

What is annoying to me is the coach that has the habit of saying "THANK YOU" after calls that favor his team....as if I'm there to accommodate his team.

I think the OP is a player in a men's rec league.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I think the OP is a player in a men's rec league.

I thought he said he was a player/coach. At least, that's what I inferred from his OP.

If he was a player in the situation posted, then I'm definitely OK with the directional pointing. If he was standing in the coach's box and gave a signal, I'm def OK with that too.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DLH17

I thought he said he was a player/coach. At least, that's what I inferred from his OP.

If he was a player in the situation posted, then I'm definitely OK with the directional pointing. If he was standing in the coach's box and gave a signal, I'm def OK with that too.

He said he pointed to the endline when the opposing player stepped OOB, not too many coaches would be in position to do this.

Like I said, I'm fine with players pointing once the I've blown my whislte, they do it all the time. But when I point the other way, they should just start moving into defensive position rather than argue it with me.

I do, however, get annoyed when, during play, a player points to the line (to indicate the opponent stepped OOB) or makes a traveling signal. He may as well start counting out loud for me. I'll take less of this than "traveling" from the coach.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

He said he pointed to the endline when the opposing player stepped OOB, not too many coaches would be in position to do this.

Like I said, I'm fine with players pointing once the I've blown my whislte, they do it all the time. But when I point the other way, they should just start moving into defensive position rather than argue it with me.

I do, however, get annoyed when, during play, a player points to the line (to indicate the opponent stepped OOB) or makes a traveling signal. He may as well start counting out loud for me. I'll take less of this than "traveling" from the coach.

I agree....but, I've seen coaches wander from the coaching box all the way down the end line. This being wreck league, that scenario is very possible.

Moot point, though, now that commcoach explained himself.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DLH17

I agree....but, I've seen coaches wander from the coaching box all the way down the end line. This being wreck league, that scenario is very possible.

True, but if that was the case, I wouldn't be talking to him about pointing. If he's out of the box that far and trying to influence my calls.... Let's just say he won't have to worry about the boundaries of the coaching box the rest of the game.

Originally Posted by DLH17

Moot point, though, now that commcoach explained himself.

And this is where I get to say, ""

[Judtech]

:+1 for depends on official. Some have short fuses just like everywhere else.
Last rec league I played in was back in the 90's. I was called for a block on a fast break. (I hadn't bothered to run down on offense) I sort of smirked but didn't make a show or anything. I was standing by the referee during the FT's and subs and asked it it was a block b/c I moved. He said Yes. I said but wouldn't moving have required effort on my part. He said yes. I said Have I done ANYTHING in this game to signify that I would make ANY extra effort when standing is soooo much easier? Then I walked away smiling thinking I had made a funny. I got T'd. The other official thought it was funny!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

:+1 for depends on official. Some have short fuses just like everywhere else.
Last rec league I played in was back in the 90's. I was called for a block on a fast break. (I hadn't bothered to run down on offense) I sort of smirked but didn't make a show or anything. I was standing by the referee during the FT's and subs and asked it it was a block b/c I moved. He said Yes. I said but wouldn't moving have required effort on my part. He said yes. I said Have I done ANYTHING in this game to signify that I would make ANY extra effort when standing is soooo much easier? Then I walked away smiling thinking I had made a funny. I got T'd. The other official thought it was funny!

And some officials have shorter fuses in wreck games than when they're working other games.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by snaqwells

and some officials have shorter fuses in wreck games than when they're working real games.

:d

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And some officials have shorter fuses in wreck games than when they're working other games.

Yeah, I know. I wasn't trying to be confrontational about any of it. I wasn't really ticked off about the "T" either. It was what it was, I didn't take it as any big deal and just kept playing the game, and eliminated interaction with that official!

[commcoach]

Sorry for the misscommunication. I coach and play, but not at the same time. I coach young kids, and this particular situation happened while I was the player.

I'll try to curb the point and stuff next time. Thanks for the input.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by commcoach

Sorry for the misscommunication. I coach and play, but not at the same time. I coach young kids, and this particular situation happened while I was the player.

I'll try to curb the point and stuff next time. Thanks for the input.

That would no doubt be appreciated. I look for player help IF I am working alone. But if you find it difficult to dispense with the pointing, maybe you should look into taking an officiating class for next season. Maybe there is an official inside your player/coach's body just screaming to get out.

[deecee]

Back in the days when I did wreck league 9/10 times on close calls where one player did something like this I always went the other way. Needless to say there is usually one sharp tool on the team that picks up on this and gets the player to stop. I dont need to say anything to get them to stop my actions speak for themselves.

Same with 3 seconds count and block.charge. I could care less what you do. However what you do does influence my call