Embarrassing travel play

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

you are right - eschew is the complete opposite of what I am trying to say...

We've all done it, didn't mean to pick on you.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by deecee

I dont know if you have ever gone to a D1 camp at all, but one of the primary mantras that is passed on about travelling is to not call the ones that are very questionable (they eschew upon you to call only the obvious). the reason I have been told is that, especially at the mens level, the footwork can be so quick that there is a reasonable amount of chance that we can be wrong.

travels look much different in real time and on TV, and with replays. I do think this is one of the hardest calls to get right as officials especially at the higher levels. Judging ball and pivot foot in real time is very tough and unless you are 100% sure as an official on the court you cannot make the call.

I can't even spell D1 camp, but there are travels I see on tv while reading the paper with one eye and sorta watching the game with the other which more and more frequently go uncalled . If this is what we get with 100% sure, I suggest we try a lower number.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I can't even spell D1 camp, but there are travels I see on tv while reading the paper with one eye and sorta watching the game with the other which more and more frequently go uncalled . If this is what we get with 100% sure, I suggest we try a lower number.

JAR - my contention with posts like these are that I can guarantee going over tape of any of our games we will see calls that are that we dont call, or for that matter miss.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to point out the very obvious missed call on a TV game and bash it. I mean what's the argument, and what good does it do any of us. It just seems like worthless nitpicking when we start piling on the, "Man if that was my game I would NEVER let that happen." When the fact of the matter is you HAVE let that happen. We all have. My 2c.

True, but I'd rather miss one than call one that never happened

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I can't even spell D1 camp, but there are travels I see on tv while reading the paper with one eye and sorta watching the game with the other which more and more frequently go uncalled . If this is what we get with 100% sure, I suggest we try a lower number.

Ditto. I'll admit that I rewind a few at times, but a lot of them are obvious right off the bat and they let them go. The ones that I can't stand are when the player catches a pass with one foot on the ground, jumps and lands on both feet, then pivots. Also the post player who either lifts his pivot foot before starting the dribble or lifts it and puts it back down after ending the dribble.

deecee, I understand what you're saying, but the D1 guys are paid the big bucks for a reason. I'm expected to call traveling as it happens at my level so they should be expected to do the same at their level.