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Old Thu Dec 09, 2004, 10:07pm
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Ok, we've all had them. I'll start off because they're worth a laugh anyway - and they're great learning tools.

It was a Bantam game (14/15 year old). When I'm a WH I always wear a finger whistle. I'm talking too much and there is nothing more embarrassing than a referee who blows an inadvertant whistle so I want to keep the thing out of my face.

It's 3rd down and we're in a punt formation (this is Canadian ball). I'm in my standard spot waiting for the snap to come back to the kicker. For some reason I've got my whistle plugged into my face. So, snap comes back...punter gets the ball....no sooner had the ball hit the punter's foot than my whistle is toooooting.

Of course my arse is pointing at the punter's bench when this goes on and so crows the coach, "ok, I'd like to know why we're killing this play". I turned around and said to the coach, "so would I coach. I think I just bought my crew the first round"

Ugh.
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Old Thu Dec 09, 2004, 10:54pm
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First I'm just going to give a bit of backround info on me, I started officiating basketball and then moved into football. So I had two years of experience with basketball rules and mechanics before I threw my first flag (and this happened to be it)

This is a tyke(age 7-9) game and I'm the LJ. The QB breaks out on this running play goes about 20 yards downfield. I see one of his teammates holding a defensive player right behind him, I instictively blow my whistle and "bird dog". Then I realized I was on the football field and tossed my flag up.

Needless to say, I was told to switch to a finger whistle before my next games. (something I still haven't done 2 years later )

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Old Thu Dec 09, 2004, 11:13pm
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Ok, we've all had them. I'll start off because they're worth a laugh anyway - and they're great learning tools.

It was a Bantam game (14/15 year old). When I'm a WH I always wear a finger whistle. I'm talking too much and there is nothing more embarrassing than a referee who blows an inadvertant whistle so I want to keep the thing out of my face.

It's 3rd down and we're in a punt formation (this is Canadian ball). I'm in my standard spot waiting for the snap to come back to the kicker. For some reason I've got my whistle plugged into my face. So, snap comes back...punter gets the ball....no sooner had the ball hit the punter's foot than my whistle is toooooting.

Of course my arse is pointing at the punter's bench when this goes on and so crows the coach, "ok, I'd like to know why we're killing this play". I turned around and said to the coach, "so would I coach. I think I just bought my crew the first round"

Ugh.
Know how converts are from the 5? Well, as a WH, it becomes habit to blow the whistle as soon the ball leaves the K's foot on a convert, which is from the 5.

Well, in a RS game with playoff implications, I have an IG foul on 2D: the QB spikes the ball when PLS was the B-3. So, defence can decline and 3D from the B-3, or accept and 3D from the B-5. Well, B accepts and A lines up in FG formation, from the 5.

WH's call from within the 10. What do I do? Blow it as soon as the ball leaves K's foot. Wide left. D@mn. Live ball. Score was 13-12 for B.

Turns out the ball lands OB in flight. IW ruling: it is ignored, score the single. Now it's 13-13, heading for OT.

Is that a horseshoe on an IW or what?

I guess the mental habit of blowing a kick dead when it originates from the 5 surfaced to the tip of my brain. Luckily, it had zero impact on the game.
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Old Thu Dec 09, 2004, 11:16pm
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...blow my whistle and "bird dog"...
You bird dog'd in a football game?

TOO MUCH!!!!
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2004, 10:26am
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I had one in our league championship game this year, it was my first all year long. I was LJ and the ball carrier got tackled in the middle of the field, I saw his knee's hit the ground so I hit the whistle. Right about then I see some people scrambling around and I'm thinking "uh oh, I'm in trouble now", then someone on D breaks from the pack and runs for a TD. We gave the ball to the Defense, but at the spot of the fumble. The WH said the whistle blew after the recovery, I don't know about all that, but it sounded good to me. Good thing I was on the sideline of the fumbling team!!!

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Old Fri Dec 10, 2004, 01:18pm
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Seafood and pasta?
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2004, 04:10pm
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Seafood and pasta?
For sure!

http://www.meals.com/Recipes/RecipeD...RecipeID=12323
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2004, 04:16pm
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Seafood and pasta?
For sure!

http://www.meals.com/Recipes/RecipeD...RecipeID=12323
No question about the menu choice. I'm just making note of the new signature.
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Old Sat Dec 11, 2004, 11:29am
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I heard a story once invovling an officiation 'legend' in these parts. The story goes - before the game the officials are reminded to be careful with the whistles because one of the teams runs and option and is quite adapt at hiding the ball. During the first series of downs the visitor's QB puts the ball on the halfback's hip and rides him around the end. The QB pulls the ball back and continues to run around the end with nothing but green between himself and the goal line.

"TWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!"

The referee, the person responsible for blowing the whistle, heads to the home team's sideline and asks the coach for his headset. He throws a fit on the sideline, yelling, screaming, stomping, pointing to the field, pointing to the stands, pointing to the press box, etc. The ref returns the headset to the coach and turns for the field. As he's walking away the PA announcer says the following, "Will the band director please refrain from blowing your whistle while the play is in progress."

Everyone knew what had happened but nobody dared to call his bluff.
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Old Sat Dec 11, 2004, 01:40pm
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I really wasn't going to post this, but during one of our late season games this year our substitute WH blew an IW from well over 20 yards away.

It was totally embarassing to the entire crew, not because of the IW. But because while dressing prior to the game we all talked about this topic. Specifically directed to our sub-WH about not blowing his whistle so much. During a game many weeks before, he also filled in as our sub-WH and was on his horn on just about every play.
We practically tattoo'd those words on his eyelids to don't blow your whistle... Let the wings and ocassionally the U blow the whistle to kill the play.

The play was a pass snapped from the B-14, intercepted in the EZ by B. On the way out, our sub-WH blows his whistle while standing around the B-22. Turns and gives an S10 to the press box.
We sprinted over to him and asked just what the $#%# was that for? He responded he thought is was a Try down.

We said that doesn't make any difference. We told you to stay off your whistle. The wings will kill that play if it really was a try down. It was a normal down and you just screwed team-B of a potentially longer run back.
I was so steamed my glasses were fogging up, and it wasn't even half time.

Team-A coach as expected starts arguing with me that he still gets to keep the ball. All he says was that was an IW and I get the choice. It took him until halftime was over to agree he did not get to keep the ball.

Ok, I feel better now. I'm going to forget about this and not let it bug me any more. And yes, we will not be using that sub-WH next year.
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Old Sat Dec 11, 2004, 05:29pm
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3rd and 10 on the B40.
QB drops back to pass.
Defensive end has a clear shot at the back side of the QB.
QB throws a bomb.
Defensive back falls down.
Wide reciever catches ball on 5 yard line and unmolested and uncovered easily steps into the endzone for an apparent TD.
But wait,
I (White hat) blew my whistle right when the QB released the ball (in an effort to keep the defensive end from hitting the QB?)
Offensive's head coach stands on side line with his arms folded waiting or an explanation.
I call crew together. I ask line judge is there any way we can say the IW happend after the reciever caught the ball.
LJ responds, "That's gonna be a tough sell Kevin as the ball was still on it's upward arc!"
We go with (properly) IW.
I explain to offensive coach his only real option is to replay the down. He is unhappy but understanding.
Next play offense fumbles ball away, they go on to lose the game by 4 points, and are eliminated from the playoffs, (1st round game).
After the game we are locked out of our locker room, so while standing in the hallway and waiting for someone to open the door, (of course) the losing coach comes walking down the hall to get to his locker room, we make eye contact, he stops, offers his hand, we shake hands, and he says, "I know you feel bad, but one play does not decide a football game". I said Thanks Coach, and I'm really sorry!" We nodded and he walks away then he stops, turns around and says, "By the way, sometime down the road, you own me one!" He winked, nodded and walked in to his locker room to talk to his team.

Its been 12 years, I haven't had an IW since, (knock on wood) however that particular play still haunts me to this this day...
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Old Sun Dec 12, 2004, 10:04am
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I had two "almosts" that would have been embarrasing as heck. The same exact play KWH posted I had 3 weeks ago but luckily was I was about to blow the whistle I realized at the last microsecond what the heck I was doing. If it had been a lanyard whistle I would have certainly blown it.

2 - at a homecoming game the QB faked a handoff at the 1-yard line and the linebacker met him head on. If he had penetrated the goal I would have signaled TD and blown the whistle in front of 2,000 people. The QB was rolling right and eventually tossed a game tying TD on the play. I thought how humiliated I would be if I had blown that.

Lessons learned....I need to practice what I (and most of you) preach - see the ball!
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Old Sun Dec 12, 2004, 12:30pm
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I really wasn't going to post this, but during one of our late season games this year our substitute WH blew an IW from well over 20 yards away.

It was totally embarassing to the entire crew, not because of the IW. But because while dressing prior to the game we all talked about this topic. Specifically directed to our sub-WH about not blowing his whistle so much. During a game many weeks before, he also filled in as our sub-WH and was on his horn on just about every play.
We practically tattoo'd those words on his eyelids to don't blow your whistle... Let the wings and ocassionally the U blow the whistle to kill the play.

The play was a pass snapped from the B-14, intercepted in the EZ by B. On the way out, our sub-WH blows his whistle while standing around the B-22. Turns and gives an S10 to the press box.
We sprinted over to him and asked just what the $#%# was that for? He responded he thought is was a Try down.

We said that doesn't make any difference. We told you to stay off your whistle. The wings will kill that play if it really was a try down. It was a normal down and you just screwed team-B of a potentially longer run back.
I was so steamed my glasses were fogging up, and it wasn't even half time.

Team-A coach as expected starts arguing with me that he still gets to keep the ball. All he says was that was an IW and I get the choice. It took him until halftime was over to agree he did not get to keep the ball.

Ok, I feel better now. I'm going to forget about this and not let it bug me any more. And yes, we will not be using that sub-WH next year.
Theisey, did you say the whistle blew after the interception? If so, B could have kept the ball. Rule 4-2-3c says "if an IW occurs while the ball is in player possession, that team may choose to accept the play at that spot or replay the down.
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Old Sun Dec 12, 2004, 02:00pm
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Yes, just as IW rules provide team-B took over after the INT. I said that the Team-A coach at the time kept insisting they get the choice. Of course we didn't let that happen. Who knows how far the team-B interceptor would have returned the ball.
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Old Sun Dec 12, 2004, 02:10pm
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Yes, just as IW rules provide team-B took over after the INT. I said that the Team-A coach at the time kept insisting they get the choice. Of course we didn't let that happen. Who knows how far the team-B interceptor would have returned the ball.
I guess I can't read very well. Glad you nailed it!
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