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Nevadaref Wed Mar 10, 2010 09:53pm

Embarrassing travel play
 
Pat Driscoll isn't going to be happy when he sees the video of the traveling that he allowed a player from Seton Hall to get away with right in front of him during the 1st half today.
Jay Bilas remarked about it and even had the TV crew call up a replay to show the footwork. The player took about six total steps while moving both foot as he twisted and turned in progressing perhaps eight feet sideways.

It was one of the worst uncalled traveling violations that I have seen at the NCAA level.

zm1283 Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:24pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 667564)
Pat Driscoll isn't going to be happy when he sees the video of the traveling that he allowed a player from Seton Hall to get away with right in front of him during the 1st half today.
Jay Bilas remarked about it and even had the TV crew call up a replay to show the footwork. The player took about six total steps while moving both foot as he twisted and turned in progressing perhaps eight feet sideways.

It was one of the worst uncalled traveling violations that I have seen at the NCAA level.

That is saying something because they let a LOT of traveling violations go in D1 basketball. That is my one complaint about officiating in college basketball.

Nevadaref Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:30pm

If you check ESPN360 and watch the play, you will agree that this was is really blatant.

fullor30 Thu Mar 11, 2010 07:57am

More than this one?
 
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 667576)
If you check ESPN360 and watch the play, you will agree that this was is really blatant.

This is hard to beat

YouTube - Duke travel. How many steps? I count 12!

Indianaref Thu Mar 11, 2010 08:21am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 667619)

OMG, I had not seen this one. I would hate to be the Trail official and see this one on film.

KCRC Thu Mar 11, 2010 08:38am

Yes
 
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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 667573)
That is saying something because they let a LOT of traveling violations go in D1 basketball. That is my one complaint about officiating in college basketball.

Amen! Especially on the catch. I cringe everytime I see a player catch a pass on one foot, jump off that one foot and either (a) land on two feet (so far so good) and then immediately pivot before starting the dribble; or (b) land on one foot and then bring the other foot down. Traveling on the catch happens a lot in college basketball. I guess I just need to get over it.

grunewar Thu Mar 11, 2010 08:43am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 667619)

One of our all time favorites. Pops up at least annually.

If I recall, there's one of Dan Marjle in the pros that is also really bad..... (although, on this forum, I'm not sure if a travel in the NBA counts.) ;)

fullor30 Thu Mar 11, 2010 09:00am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 667629)
One of our all time favorites. Pops up at least annually.

If I recall, there's one of Dan Marjle in the pros that is also really bad..... (although, on this forum, I'm not sure if a travel in the NBA counts.) ;)

Another Duke one. Jon Scheyer is from our area and they say he can walk on water, I guess the hardwood too.

YouTube - Duke's Jon Scheyer walks 3+ times but refs swallow whistle

Amesman Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:45am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 667629)
One of our all time favorites. Pops up at least annually.

If I recall, there's one of Dan Marjle in the pros that is also really bad..... (although, on this forum, I'm not sure if a travel in the NBA counts.) ;)

YouTube - Worst Travel Ever! (Dan Majerle)

He could have taken his opponent out for drinks and romance after dancing with him like that ...

grunewar Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:53am

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Originally Posted by Amesman (Post 667678)
YouTube - Worst Travel Ever! (Dan Majerle)

He could have taken his opponent out for drinks and romance after dancing with him like that ...

Thanks for posting the link Amesman (darn security folks at the office won't allow us access to YouTube....) :rolleyes:

DLH17 Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:57am

Another one occurred at the Spring Center in KC yesterday during the Nebraska/Missouri game of the B12 tournament.

Nebraska shooter takes a transition pass from the mid court area, never takes a dribble and runs into a 3 point fg attempt....that went in.

NU player took like 4 or 5 choppy steps. Couldn't believe my eyes!

jeffpea Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:31am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 667576)
If you check ESPN360 and watch the play, you will agree that this was is really blatant.

the play occurs at approx. the 26:20 mark of the replay on espn360.com

not good...

Raymond Thu Mar 11, 2010 02:04pm

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Originally Posted by jeffpea (Post 667702)
the play occurs at approx. the 26:20 mark of the replay on espn360.com

not good...

Maybe he thought it would be a game interrupter?

deecee Thu Mar 11, 2010 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 667573)
That is saying something because they let a LOT of traveling violations go in D1 basketball. That is my one complaint about officiating in college basketball.

I dont know if you have ever gone to a D1 camp at all, but one of the primary mantras that is passed on about travelling is to not call the ones that are very questionable (they eschew upon you to call only the obvious). the reason I have been told is that, especially at the mens level, the footwork can be so quick that there is a reasonable amount of chance that we can be wrong.

travels look much different in real time and on TV, and with replays. I do think this is one of the hardest calls to get right as officials especially at the higher levels. Judging ball and pivot foot in real time is very tough and unless you are 100% sure as an official on the court you cannot make the call.

Ch1town Thu Mar 11, 2010 02:14pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 667758)
I dont know if you have ever gone to a D1 camp at all, but one of the primary mantras that is passed on about travelling is to not call the ones that are very questionable (they eschew upon you to call only the obvious).

That should be the mindset at all levels of play. If you have to rewind it several times to validate that it was there, then it is a GI.


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