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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 02:57am
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Yeah, it was a rule change this season. When there are lights on the backboard they take priority for indicating the expiration of time.

So in this particular video clip the officials should have been looking for the illumination of the red lights.


COMMENTS ON THE 2009-10 RULES REVISIONS

RED/LED LIGHT PERMITTED TO END QUARTER/EXTRA PERIOD (1-14; 5-
6-2): When a red light behind the backboard or an LED light on the backboard is
present, it is permitted to signal the expiration of time in the quarter or extra period. If
no red/LED light is present, the audible timer’s signal will continue to signal the
expiration of time. The change permits equipment currently found in some facilities to
be utilized rather than ignored. All other end-of-period rules remain intact. During their
pregame responsibilities, game officials should determine if red/LED lights are present
in order to adjudicate end-of-period situations properly.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 05:01am
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Call has to belong to one official or the other- Some mechanics like opposite trail... some mechanics like trail (with it going to C under certain time frame... NBA)

In this play both C and L should have helped out. L should have been close to play and can see light on the board--- C looking back sees ball and light..

Whoops! on this call
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 08:49am
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Yeah, it was a rule change this season. When there are lights on the backboard they take priority for indicating the expiration of time.

So in this particular video clip the officials should have been looking for the illumination of the red lights.


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This is something I did a poor job pre-gaming for this season. Need to remember next season to find out each game if there is a red light or not so we are properly prepared.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 09:54am
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I am just shocked to see my Alma mater's basketball court this early in the morning. It's been years since I've seen the floor! Thanks for sharing. I'm interested to see if the college stat guys were there and what they thought. I'm sure that craziness ensued.

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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 09:55am
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BTW, the mechanic should absolutely not change.

-Josh
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 10:09am
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BTW, the mechanic should absolutely not change.

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Absolutely agree.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 11:15am
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FYI, I talked with the EKU statistician this morning. He said it was something else to be there. Everyone was just in shock that the basketball was waved off.

11th Region Boys Basketball Tournament - Franklin County Flyers vs. Henry Clay Blue Devils | CKYSports Videos | iHigh.com

You will have to scroll through to the end

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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 11:34am
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Absolutely agree.
There is such a fascination with "locking down" with some officials, too. With HS mechanics, the official opposite ALWAYS has the last shot. If there's a rotation in a half-court set, the responsibility for the last shot DOES NOT CHANGE, so why the fascination with the T and C "locking down"?

Makes no sense to me -- maybe someone can enlighten me.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 11:59am
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There is such a fascination with "locking down" with some officials, too. With HS mechanics, the official opposite ALWAYS has the last shot. If there's a rotation in a half-court set, the responsibility for the last shot DOES NOT CHANGE, so why the fascination with the T and C "locking down"?

Makes no sense to me -- maybe someone can enlighten me.
I don't understand this either but I've heard many times. It doesn't happen in my games....
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 12:13pm
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There is such a fascination with "locking down" with some officials, too. With HS mechanics, the official opposite ALWAYS has the last shot. If there's a rotation in a half-court set, the responsibility for the last shot DOES NOT CHANGE, so why the fascination with the T and C "locking down"?

Makes no sense to me -- maybe someone can enlighten me.
Here is the ONLY situation I've come up with that it could remotely be useful:

Lead (R1) switches towards the table (making the T (R2) the new C by default) in the waning moments of the contest. Simultaneously, the defense steals the ball and throws up a shot as the buzzer goes off. Only problem is that R2 didn't see R1 switch.

Well, according to mechanics (correct me if I'm wrong), had R1 stayed opposite table, he would be the new trail on the play (after the steal by the defense) and thus he would have the final shot. However, since R2 is still the C (because R1 switched tableside) it would be his call. But he may not have seen the switch.

I must say that I do not like locking down. Have I done it? Unfortunately my superior officials have decided to lock down in games and we did pregame it, so I have. But when I'm referee, we do not lock down. I officiate the final 5, 10, 15 seconds the same (just as crappy or excellent depending on how you look at it ) as I did the first 5, 10, 15 seconds.

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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 10:02am
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This is something I did a poor job pre-gaming for this season. Need to remember next season to find out each game if there is a red light or not so we are properly prepared.
It only mattered in the final game that I officiated. No other venue had the lights.

I suspect that is true for 99% of the places that HS games are played throughout the country.
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