Suggested Mechanic Change

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdmara

Everyone can have an opinion but there is only one that matters in the heat of the moment. It's the C/T opposite the table. If you can't trust your partner during that last second shot, you aren't a good team member. There is absolutely no reason to get together on a last second shot (unless your partner falls down and pokes himself in both eyes simultaneously).

-Josh

I agree. I don't see any reason to have any more than two sets of eyes on that last second shot; and if it's in the primary of the official with last shot responsibility, there should only be one set of eyes on it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I agree. I don't see any reason to have any more than two sets of eyes on that last second shot; and if it's in the primary of the official with last shot responsibility, there should only be one set of eyes on it.

I worked a game this season with 2 officials who both have "D3 National Championship" on their resumes'. The C opposite table had a last second shot in his primary at the end of the first half. He did not wave off the shot even though it came after the buzzer. The shot was missed so no big deal.

In the locker room at halftime we discussed the play and the C said he got focused on a possible foul and asked if he got it right as far as not waving the shot off. Both I (Trail tableside) and the Lead said it was clearly released after the horn. The C said "then I hope you 2 would have came to me had the shot gone in because we all should have an opinion on a last second shot". The Lead pretty much echoed those sentiments.

So, there are different schools of thought on the matter. Wear the appropriate toga is what I say.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I worked a game this season with 2 officials who both have "D3 National Championship" on their resumes'. The C opposite table had a last second shot in his primary at the end of the first half. He did not wave off the shot even though it came after the buzzer. The shot was missed so no big deal.

In the locker room at halftime we discussed the play and the C said he got focused on a possible foul and asked if he got it right as far as not waving the shot off. Both I (Trail tableside) and the Lead said it was clearly released after the horn. The C said "then I hope you 2 would have came to me had the shot gone in because we all should have an opinion on a last second shot". The Lead pretty much echoed those sentiments.

So, there are different schools of thought on the matter. Wear the appropriate toga is what I say.

I understand the concept but what I don't understand is how it's ever going to look like you know what the heck you're doing if you wave off a basket, then get together and count it. I don't think that this situation is equivalent with an out-of-bounds call that you are 110% that the lead got wrong....People make mistakes and sometimes we have to live with those mistakes.

-Josh

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jdmara

I understand the concept but what I don't understand is how it's ever going to look like you know what the heck you're doing if you wave off a basket, then get together and count it. I don't think that this situation is equivalent with an out-of-bounds call that you are 110% that the lead got wrong....People make mistakes and sometimes we have to live with those mistakes.

-Josh

No, this not one we live with. Who cares what it looks like aesthetically, what's important in a game deciding situation is whether or not the crew got the call right. This is far more important that a random OOB call.

We all saw the thread of the HS play-off game at Eastern Kentucky. If one of the other crew members had come in and told the Trail that the shot was obviously released in time and the Trail changed his called and counted the basket the film would have supported the decision and the right team would have advanced. And the CREW would have been lauded for getting the call right.