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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 11:34am
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Absolutely agree.
There is such a fascination with "locking down" with some officials, too. With HS mechanics, the official opposite ALWAYS has the last shot. If there's a rotation in a half-court set, the responsibility for the last shot DOES NOT CHANGE, so why the fascination with the T and C "locking down"?

Makes no sense to me -- maybe someone can enlighten me.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 11:59am
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There is such a fascination with "locking down" with some officials, too. With HS mechanics, the official opposite ALWAYS has the last shot. If there's a rotation in a half-court set, the responsibility for the last shot DOES NOT CHANGE, so why the fascination with the T and C "locking down"?

Makes no sense to me -- maybe someone can enlighten me.
I don't understand this either but I've heard many times. It doesn't happen in my games....
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 12:13pm
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the improvement that is required to solve the problem in the originally posted video, is one of judgement improvement - NOT mechanic improvement.

based on the unique circumstances of each game, i don't really think it matters whether it's the C or T - just agree on a guy and let him make the call...and trust he has better judgement than the trail in the OP video because you didn't need replay or the pause button to see that shot was released in time and should have counted.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 12:56pm
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the improvement that is required to solve the problem in the originally posted video, is one of judgement improvement - NOT mechanic improvement.
Bingo. QED.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 01:17pm
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The only mechanic to be changed here (according to the announcers) would be to allow the use of courtside monitors.
Even though the announcers said it only went back 30 seconds, knowing it was there would anyone have gone over to sneak a peak and worry about the consequences later? THAT would have made it more interesting. Offiicials huddle, go to monitor, can't replay the the situation on the monitor, officials huddle and then .................
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 01:26pm
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The only mechanic to be changed here (according to the announcers) would be to allow the use of courtside monitors.
Even though the announcers said it only went back 30 seconds, knowing it was there would anyone have gone over to sneak a peak and worry about the consequences later? THAT would have made it more interesting. Offiicials huddle, go to monitor, can't replay the the situation on the monitor, officials huddle and then .................
2-2-1 (note). Given that it's up to the states to decide whether to allow it, and there's no definition of "state championship series" provided by the Fed, I would say that change has already been made.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 06:48pm
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Wow. I really feel for the official who waved this off. I can't imagine a worse feeling after a game.

Assuming that the L and/or C had definite knowledge, I don't understand why one of them didn't go to the T and offer their information. I always cover this in pregame, because a similar thing happened to my closest friend. He waved off a ball that went in, and when he got to the locker room, his partner told him "it was definitely good". The film confirmed it. Why take that info to the locker room with you?

If it's a bang-banger that you have to watch four times on film to be sure, then you live and die with the T's call. In a play that is as obvious as this one seemed to be, partners have to help. Get the play right.
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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 12:13pm
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There is such a fascination with "locking down" with some officials, too. With HS mechanics, the official opposite ALWAYS has the last shot. If there's a rotation in a half-court set, the responsibility for the last shot DOES NOT CHANGE, so why the fascination with the T and C "locking down"?

Makes no sense to me -- maybe someone can enlighten me.
Here is the ONLY situation I've come up with that it could remotely be useful:

Lead (R1) switches towards the table (making the T (R2) the new C by default) in the waning moments of the contest. Simultaneously, the defense steals the ball and throws up a shot as the buzzer goes off. Only problem is that R2 didn't see R1 switch.

Well, according to mechanics (correct me if I'm wrong), had R1 stayed opposite table, he would be the new trail on the play (after the steal by the defense) and thus he would have the final shot. However, since R2 is still the C (because R1 switched tableside) it would be his call. But he may not have seen the switch.

I must say that I do not like locking down. Have I done it? Unfortunately my superior officials have decided to lock down in games and we did pregame it, so I have. But when I'm referee, we do not lock down. I officiate the final 5, 10, 15 seconds the same (just as crappy or excellent depending on how you look at it ) as I did the first 5, 10, 15 seconds.

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