Time Out Request

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is some question as to whether to administer the 2 FTs before or after the time-out. I'm not sure that I've ever seen any clear guidance on this.

Was just going to ask for guidance on this one as I realized I'm not sure.

Anyone remember what happened on the Weber/Michigan technical? I sure don't, and I also realize it may or may not be correct.

I lean on the side of having the TO, then administering the FTs. The TO was requested and granted first, that then caused the technical foul. Plus (the more I think about it) a team could request a TO after a technical were called and before the throws were administered and it would be granted and administered prior to the throws.

Yep, I've talked myself into administering the TO first, then the technical foul.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is some question as to whether to administer the 2 FTs before or after the time-out. I'm not sure that I've ever seen any clear guidance on this.

Really? Shoot the FTs after the TO.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Really? Shoot the FTs after the TO.

That's pretty clear guidance.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

That's pretty clear guidance.

No higher authority exists.

Now, I'm not sure how I'll handle it when he disagrees with me.

[AKOFL]

Why was the team complaining if the official had started his count? Morons.[/QUOTE]

I am a moron, and am very offended.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

Why was the team complaining if the official had started his count? Morons.

I am a moron, and am very offended.[/QUOTE]

You sure that's how it's spelled?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by eyezen

You sure that's how it's spelled?

Wow, complete with Mullet and everything.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Wow, complete with Mullet and everything.

Actually sums up most Cardinal fans I know.

(I know this is off topic, but aren't you getting goosebumps knowing we're getting close to the start of the Annual Baseball Thread?!?)

Anyway, back to the TO's. Doesn't Bob's advice follow the NFHS "standard procedure" applying penalties in the order they occured? So, in the case of the excess TO request, the TO was granted, then it was determined it was an excessive TO, so it makes sense the penalty comes after the TO.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

(I know this is off topic, but aren't you getting goosebumps knowing we're getting close to the start of the Annual Baseball Thread?!?)

I think we have a lot of recent arrivals in the forum. Would you like to explain?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I think we have a lot of recent arrivals in the forum. Would you like to explain?

Well, I would, but it would take way too much time explaining how there was one esteemed member who used to post here frequently, but now only comes back to start his Annual Off-Topic Baseball thread, usually starting it on Opening Day. I would have to get into how it's been a tradition for the last several years for many of us non-baseball people to post about MLB teams, interesting occurances, and simple "Nyeh, nyeh, my team's better than yours!" comments. I would even have to mention how even though off-topic threads are usually frowned upon here, this one has been allowed to occur, and usually ends up being the most-replied to thread as it stays open throughout the season. It is also a great diversion through the normally slow basketball off-season.

So, thanks for asking, but no, I'd rather not get into that now.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

So, thanks for asking, but no, I'd rather not get into that now.

Your restraint is admirable.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by eyezen

I am a moron, and am very offended.

You sure that's how it's spelled?

[/quote]

Nice that he also posted his name for everyone to see. Oh, wait that's IA.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Doesn't Bob's advice follow the NFHS "standard procedure" applying penalties in the order they occured?

So which two penalties are being administered in this case?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

So which two penalties are being administered in this case?

Well, in this particular instance, there's the penalty of shooting 2 FT's for the excess TO called, then there's the penalty of tossing you off this thread.

I used the term "penalties" in a general sense, rather than imply there was more than one penalty specific to this situation. I would think that is no different than reading about how "...applications will be accepted at the main office through Friday...", although personally I'm going to only submit one application.

(I sure hope mbyron backs me up on this one...)

And, of course: shut up.

[tonyvan]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

ASk CHris Webber what happens in the NCAA tournament when you call time out and you dont have one...

If you did ask Chris Webber he may say he doesn't know, since those games never happened.