My season done & question concerning scoreboard preferences

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

You realize these two statements are contradictory. Please explain why "awareness of players in foul trouble is important to me." Please don't say you are less likely to call a foul on a player depending on how many fouls that player has at that time.

Here we go...

I'm not going to get into this discussion full-bore (as it's OT from the OP and been discussed many times) but knowing how many fouls each player has allows me to manage the game better. For instance, if I know that #43 just picked up his 3rd foul in the beginning of the 2nd quarter or his 4th in the beginning of the 4th quarter, I will be expecting the coach to substitute that player out. Therefore, I might wait an extra split-second to put the ball in play to allow the coach the time to get someone to the table. If they don't, then I continue as normal.

It's the same reason I put additional focus on looking towards the coach(es) (if I'm opposite the bench) during a close game to see if they are requesting a timeout (after a made shot, turnover, etc). I want to use my knowledge of the game to be prepared for what situations might come about. I don't like to say that I anticipate what the coach may or may not do but knowing what might happen is always helpful.

Did I dodge the bait, Mark?

-Josh

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I would like a scoreboard that would allow us to show a replay of every play with which a coach disagrees with our call, also automatically showing a printed graphic of the applicable rule. At the end of each replay, the screen would then read, "COACH IS A DOOFUS - AGAIN".

Would have burned out the screen from overuse in the travel ball tournament worked last weekend. One example: Same assistant coach who got T'ed up for dissing partner over a call the night before comes back the next day to complain that an opposing inbounder "switched his pivot foot" and also wanted to know why he couldn't get a timeout as a held ball situation developed. Sigh.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Amesman

and also wanted to know why he couldn't get a timeout as a held ball situation developed. Sigh.

I have to ask, how did it develop?

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I have to ask, how did it develop?

Missed shot, ball ping-pongs around a bit, coach(es) screaming for a TO as two opponents latch onto it near a bench. Of course, after we give it the thumbs-up the coach doesn't want the TO any more.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I have a question for everyone. Concerning scoreboard setups, which do you prefer...a scoreboard that shows the most current player fouled with the tea fouls listed, or a scoreboard that has listed the 5 players (per team) in the game that has each players fouls & points listed as well as team fouls?

Why would anyone prefer the scoreboard which shows less information?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Cobra

Why would anyone prefer the scoreboard which shows less information?

Why would officials care about more information? Whatintheheck do we really care about things like which player has scored how many points?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Why would officials care about more information? Whatintheheck do we really care about things like which player has scored how many points?

It amuses me during timeouts.

We had one of those fancy scoreboards Monday night and I noticed a few times that the person working the board was slow getting team fouls up on the board. The more geegaws they put on those boards, the harder it is for the (sometimes) already-challenged timer to do his/her job.

I worked the clock once. It's definitely not a non-skilled job if you actually plan on doing it right.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

We had one of those fancy scoreboards Monday night and I noticed a few times that the person working the board was slow getting team fouls up on the board. The more geegaws they put on those boards, the harder it is for the (sometimes) already-challenged timer to do his/her job.

I worked the clock once. It's definitely not a non-skilled job if you actually plan on doing it right.

And especially so if you're doing a game out in East Podunk and you've got a 15-year old girl armed with a blackberry working the scoreboard......

[BBall_Junkie]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And especially so if you're doing a game out in East Podunk and you've got a 15-year old girl armed with a blackberry working the scoreboard......

East Podunk? Aren't they the Fightin' Nimrods? Also, JR there is no blackberry service in East Podunk. They use carrier pigeons which is far more distracting than the blackberries especially when they deficate on the scorebook...

Also, this is the dumbest discussion on an official forum ever. As an official I could give a rat's #$%@ what type of scoreboard hangs on the wall as long as it keeps the time. I am emailing Brad and demanding that he refund the 10 minutes of my life wasted reading this.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Cobra

Why would anyone prefer the scoreboard which shows less information?

We've been told to ignore the possession arrow on the scoreboard. If there's a question about the alternating possession, we use the arrow at the table, the summary in the home scorebook, or try to remember what it should be (we have to keep alternating whistles in our pockets), but we never use the arrow on the scoreboard.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Cobra

Why would anyone prefer the scoreboard which shows less information?

More information, more chance for errors. And, somehow, some coach (or player or fan) will "blame" us if the information is incorrect, even though we don't put it there, verify it, or rely on it.