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I know I'm going to get flack for saying it but awareness of players in foul trouble is important to me. However, a foul is a foul.-Josh
You realize these two statements are contradictory. Please explain why "awareness of players in foul trouble is important to me." Please don't say you are less likely to call a foul on a player depending on how many fouls that player has at that time.
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You realize these two statements are contradictory. Please explain why "awareness of players in foul trouble is important to me." Please don't say you are less likely to call a foul on a player depending on how many fouls that player has at that time.
Is there something wrong with being prepared for the horn to sound indicating 5 fouls?
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Is there something wrong with being prepared for the horn to sound indicating 5 fouls?
Aren't we always prepared for that?
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Aren't we always prepared for that?
Nothing like knowing it's coming, though. Also, if I know V5 has 4 fouls and I call one on him, I'll double check with the table if they don't hit the horn. My point is that the statements Mark quoted are not mutually exclusive.
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You realize these two statements are contradictory. Please explain why "awareness of players in foul trouble is important to me." Please don't say you are less likely to call a foul on a player depending on how many fouls that player has at that time.
Here we go...

I'm not going to get into this discussion full-bore (as it's OT from the OP and been discussed many times) but knowing how many fouls each player has allows me to manage the game better. For instance, if I know that #43 just picked up his 3rd foul in the beginning of the 2nd quarter or his 4th in the beginning of the 4th quarter, I will be expecting the coach to substitute that player out. Therefore, I might wait an extra split-second to put the ball in play to allow the coach the time to get someone to the table. If they don't, then I continue as normal.

It's the same reason I put additional focus on looking towards the coach(es) (if I'm opposite the bench) during a close game to see if they are requesting a timeout (after a made shot, turnover, etc). I want to use my knowledge of the game to be prepared for what situations might come about. I don't like to say that I anticipate what the coach may or may not do but knowing what might happen is always helpful.

Did I dodge the bait, Mark?

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here we go...

I'm not going to get into this discussion full-bore (as it's ot from the op and been discussed many times) but knowing how many fouls each player has allows me to manage the game better. For instance, if i know that #43 just picked up his 3rd foul in the beginning of the 2nd quarter or his 4th in the beginning of the 4th quarter, i will be expecting the coach to substitute that player out. Therefore, i might wait an extra split-second to put the ball in play to allow the coach the time to get someone to the table. If they don't, then i continue as normal.

It's the same reason i put additional focus on looking towards the coach(es) (if i'm opposite the bench) during a close game to see if they are requesting a timeout (after a made shot, turnover, etc). I want to use my knowledge of the game to be prepared for what situations might come about. I don't like to say that i anticipate what the coach may or may not do but knowing what might happen is always helpful.

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Mark thought I was going to say that I wouldn't call his fifth foul if I could help it to keep the star player in the game. I knew where he was going. I'm not a noob around this joint

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...solid Iowa education.
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Oxymoron.
Case in point, Josh.
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...solid Iowa education.
Yet another item to add to BillyMac's List of Myths.

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Yet another item to add to BillyMac's List of Myths.

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So you understand what I'm getting at, I'll quote my son:

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Yet another item to add to BillyMac's List of Myths.
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He grew up in Illinois, so he has no appreciation for a solid Iowa education.
And if Snaqwells had open enrolled a mere 15 miles to the south, his Iowa education would have been even more solid.
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