Bobby Huggins Ejection

[Judtech]

Well I am glad I finally started a good thread. I will disagree that the first "T" was warranted even though I have no idea what was said. Judging by the reaction of Huggy Bear, I don't think he knew it was coming. He was heading to talk to his team when the official went and whacked him. Then 3 seconds later ran him.
It would have looked a WHOLE lot better had the official 1) Not been in the huddle with WVU 2) Not had the whistle in his mouth the whole time - it looked like a pacifier 3)If he was expaining something to Huggy and Huggy didn't like it, then walk away to your designated spot on the floor. That way if he continues his tirade everyone and their sister will know what was going on. Also, if he earned the "T" earlier in the conversation than why stand around? When the referee left the WVU huddle, he shook his head, you can't see Huggy say anything more, then he whacks him.
Warranted or not, very ugly

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Well I am glad I finally started a good thread. I will disagree that the first "T" was warranted even though I have no idea what was said. Judging by the reaction of Huggy Bear, I don't think he knew it was coming. He was heading to talk to his team when the official went and whacked him. Then 3 seconds later ran him.
It would have looked a WHOLE lot better had the official 1) Not been in the huddle with WVU 2) Not had the whistle in his mouth the whole time - it looked like a pacifier 3)If he was expaining something to Huggy and Huggy didn't like it, then walk away to your designated spot on the floor. That way if he continues his tirade everyone and their sister will know what was going on. Also, if he earned the "T" earlier in the conversation than why stand around? When the referee left the WVU huddle, he shook his head, you can't see Huggy say anything more, then he whacks him.
Warranted or not, very ugly

You disagree it was warranted, although you don't know what was said. That makes no sense whatsoever.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Well I am glad I finally started a good thread. I will disagree that the first "T" was warranted even though I have no idea what was said.

Are you serious? I'm with Mr MSN on this one.

Originally Posted by Judtech

Judging by the reaction of Huggy Bear, I don't think he knew it was coming.

Irrelevant. All that matters is you don't know what was said.

[Judtech]

Look how do you expect me to type coherently and particiapte in a conference call. Geez.
Here is what I was trying to say:
The first one could possibly have been avoided had the official changed his location or behavior.
It did not appear to me that Huggy said anything after the official left the huddle and went to the give the "T". Was he getting a T for something he said right before he left the huddle or afterwards?
My main point is this: It looked bad for the official to be in that huddle having a conversation with a coach then non chalantly go over and "T" him. There were a lot of things I am sure the official would do differently. (Not sure about Huggy though, he'd probalby do the same) THere was a better way, IMO, to handle the whole situation.

[Adam]

Assuming Huggy said something when the official was in the huddle, should he have made a grand show of the T?

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Assuming Huggy said something when the official was in the huddle, should he have made a grand show of the T?

He should have ended the conversation right there and then T'd him up.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

He should have ended the conversation right there and then T'd him up.

I really need to see the video, but from the sounds of it, he ended the conversation and then calmly walked over and called the T.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

The first one could possibly have been avoided had the official changed his location or behavior.

And howinthehell do you know what behavior the official used, or what Huggins actually said to the official? Do you know if Huggins started the conversation with a question, didn't like the answer and then went off on the guy?

Nope, you don't know a damn thing about what really went on, but you're still adamant that it had to be the official's fault and not Huggins.

You ain't one of us, podner. That's for sure.

Sad.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And howinthehell do you know what behavior the official used, or what Huggins actually said to the official? Do you know if Huggins started the conversation with a question, didn't like the answer and then went off on the guy?

Nope, you don't know a damn thing about what really went on, but you're still adamant that it had to be the official's fault and not Huggins.

You ain't one of us, podner. That's for sure.

Sad.

Never said that it wasn't Huggy's fault. My point is that it is never a good idea to get into a huddle with a team. Of that I AM adamant. If the official gave an explaination, it would be obvious very quickly whether a coach likes it or not. At that point why not try to de- escalate the situation and walk away? Give a stop sign? What is wrong with that?
I watched the game, watched the video, and can judge how it looked, which is all I am doing. Have no idea what was said by either of them, never claimed I did.
And I am sorry I made you sad. I really am a pretty upbeat person. Even when wearing polyesther and be criticized by fans/coaches/announcers etc. Life is too short to be sad!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Never said that it wasn't Huggy's fault. My point is that it is never a good idea to get into a huddle with a team. Of that I AM adamant. If the official gave an explaination, it would be obvious very quickly whether a coach likes it or not. At that point why not try to de- escalate the situation and walk away? Give a stop sign? What is wrong with that?
I watched the game, watched the video, and can judge how it looked, which is all I am doing. Have no idea what was said by either of them, never claimed I did.
And I am sorry I made you sad. I really am a pretty upbeat person. Even when wearing polyesther and be criticized by fans/coaches/announcers etc. Life is too short to be sad!

You claimed that the T wasn't deserved, without knowing what was said. You didn't just stop with, "It looked bad." You went to "I disagree that it was deserved." It's entirely possible it was a mistake, but we don't know what was said.

[bradfordwilkins]

WHat if Huggins said "Please give me a T after we're done talking to fire up my team... (and added an ******* or something in to make sure you complied )

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You claimed that the T wasn't deserved, without knowing what was said. You didn't just stop with, "It looked bad." You went to "I disagree that it was deserved." It's entirely possible it was a mistake, but we don't know what was said.

I stand corrected. I am not trying to make a case as to whether it was justified or not.
Hopefully that clears up some of the confusion that I no doubtedly have caused by miscommunicating in my typing I apologize for any confusion, increased blood pressure, foul language, or destroyed computer hardware that my mis communication has caused.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

And I am sorry I made you sad.

Please don't misconstrue what I said. I'm not sad. I think that you...and people like you...are sad. And nothing that you've said so far has made me alter my thinking.

You ain't one of us, podner. We don't eat our own.

[Judtech]

I am not sure where I was "eating" anyone. I have modified my original position, which hopefully has made it more clear We don't know anything about each other yet you already have me labeled as someone who you would not work with and that people "like me" make you sad. Who is turning on whom?
As for not "being one of you" does that mean I don't get to sit with the cool kids at lunch?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I will disagree that the first "T" was warranted even though I have no idea what was said.

Remind me that if we ever do a game together, I shouldn't turn my back on you. Ever.

Sad!