Bobby Huggins Ejection

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DLH17

It's interesting you ask. I've probably issued a dozen or so techs over the past 5 years, so maybe two or three per. I've given two Ts this season that I can recall - one to a player and one to a coach. Different teams. Different games.

More to the essence of this thread, two years ago I whacked a 6th grade competitive league coach with two Ts back to back and sent him packing.

I have no problem utilizing that Tech Tool. But, in conversations with upper level peers and evaluators, the general message is "whack 'em and walk away (using professional, but stern body language).

Yep, and the general message is also if you have players on the floor you need to call a foul; but we all know players get on the floor all the time without a foul. Again, rules of thumb work great as long as the coaches play nice.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yep, and the general message is also if you have players on the floor you need to call a foul; but we all know players get on the floor all the time without a foul. Again, rules of thumb work great as long as the coaches play nice.

That's a new one on me. It's not a general rule of thumb I've ever discussed. Players can end up on the floor for many reasons unrelated to a foul.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DLH17

That's a new one on me. It's not a general rule of thumb I've ever discussed. Players can end up on the floor for many reasons unrelated to a foul.

It's particularly discussed with crashes. I've even had a partner in a JV game tell me that his evaluators told him he should have had a call on a particular play. He stuck around for the 1st half of the varsity game and watched them no-call the exact play.

At half time:
"So, what happened in that first play of the game?"

"The same damn thing that happened in your game."

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's particularly discussed with crashes. I've even had a partner in a JV game tell me that his evaluators told him he should have had a call on a particular play. He stuck around for the 1st half of the varsity game and watched them no-call the exact play.

At half time:
"So, what happened in that first play of the game?"

"The same damn thing that happened in your game."

That's a head-shaker....and really sucks for your partner that is making an obvious effort to improve.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DLH17

That's a head-shaker....and really sucks for your partner that is making an obvious effort to improve.

Actually, the next words out of the varsity official's mouth, "I can see why you no-called it."

[jearef]

Surprised that in all of the back and forth, no one has pointed out that behavior in the coaching box is a point of emphasis this year.

The best point I have read thus far is "we have no idea what Huggins said". One thing is certain: whatever he said, it was way over the line. Div 1 officials won't launch a coach in the last minute of a game he has obviously lost unless he really went too far.

That T wasn't for this game. That T was his way of trying to get into the heads of a crew he might see again in the tournament. For all intents and purposes, the game was already over when he got whacked.

Do we LIKE it when the official who gives the first T ends up giving the second? No. Is it a hard and fast rule that the same official can't give both? Of course not. You whack a coach. After you whack him, he launches into a tirade that begins with "you f'ing cheating mf'er". Of course you're going to get him again.

Hugs got what he deserved. And I'm a Mountaineer, by the way.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by jearef

Do we LIKE it when the official who gives the first T ends up giving the second? No. Is it a hard and fast rule that the same official can't give both? Of course not. You whack a coach. After you whack him, he launches into a tirade that begins with "you f'ing cheating mf'er". Of course you're going to get him again.

Were you at my game this weekend?

I rang up a coach for crossing the line and as I was reporting he just kept right at it and made it worse. I ended up ringing him up again and tossing him. He left me no choice as far as I was concerned.

Do I wish my partner would have stepped in? Sure. But he was inexperienced and it wasn't going to happen. Shrug.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Were you at my game this weekend?

I rang up a coach for crossing the line and as I was reporting he just kept right at it and made it worse. I ended up ringing him up again and tossing him. He left me no choice as far as I was concerned.

Do I wish my partner would have stepped in? Sure. But he was inexperienced and it wasn't going to happen. Shrug.

That's exactly how my Tx2 went down a couple years ago. Coach just...wouldn't....shut....up. He made a huge spectacle of himself in front of his kids and made it all about himself instead of the players. Easy decision for me. And, it felt gooooooood.