Coach Comment

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

No T for thinking it but once it out of your mouth your saying it thats what gets you whacked.

Yep tossed my first coach.

I've done a lot of games and probably take more than most and more than I should. At the Rec level if they want to hang themselves I make sure to give them plenty of rope.

Yesterday, B15U, I had an inexperienced partner. A coach was constantly being criticial of our calls in a small, nasty gymacaferteria that was too small and slippery for this level. I took all I could stand and warned him. He continued. I whacked him. He kept at it and I told him enough or he would earn another. He told me to give it to him and I did. He then refused to leave the gym. I told the table to put 1 minute on the clock and if he didn't depart his team would forfeit. His wife (scoreboard op) convinced him to go. Bad situation.

His team came back from six points down at the time to win going away by more than 10+. Just shows to go you.....

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Yep tossed my first coach.

I've done a lot of games and probably take more than most and more than I should. At the Rec level if they want to hang themselves I make sure to give them plenty of rope.

Yesterday, B15U, I had an inexperienced partner. A coach was constantly being criticial of our calls in a small, nasty gymacaferteria that was too small and slippery for this level. I took all I could stand and warned him. He continued. I whacked him. He kept at it and I told him enough or he would earn another. He told me to give it to him and I did. He then refused to leave the gym. I told the table to put 1 minute on the clock and if he didn't depart his team would forfeit. His wife (scoreboard op) convinced him to go. Bad situation.

His team came back from six points down at the time to win going away by more than 10+. Just shows to go you.....

I have never had to go to the forfeit or even been at a game that it happened. For conversation sake, let's say the wacked coach just stood there until the minute was up. What happens next?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle

I have never had to go to the forfeit or even been at a game that it happened. For conversation sake, let's say the wacked coach just stood there until the minute was up. What happens next?

Write on the scoresheet that the game is forfeited, the time of the forfeiture, the reason why and the final score. If the winning team was ahead at the time of the forfeiture, that is the final score, If they were behind, put it down as 2-0. Then leave without making any comments at all to anybody. The R should make out a complete post-game report with all details of the forfeiture and send it to his assignor. His assignor should pass that along to the league/governing body that the forfeiting team was a member of.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Write on the scoresheet that the game is forfeited, the time of the forfeiture, the reason why and the final score. If the winning team was ahead at the time of the forfeiture, that is the final score, If they were behind, put it down as 2-0. Then leave without making any comments at all to anybody. The R should make out a complete post-game report with all details of the forfeiture and send it to his assignor. His assignor should pass that along to the league/governing body that the forfeiting team was a member of.

Great advice Jurassic.

Luckily, my situation didn't get THAT bad. But, it was bad. Worst one I've ever been in. In all seriousness, the threads I have read here and the great number of games I have done really helped me manage this as best I could.

I send a note to the league assignor and administrator every week after all my weekend games - good and bad. As JR points out - I'll let them handle it if they deem anything more need be done.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by jkohls

"Also had a coach ask me if he gets a T for thinking something, I said no, he said 'I think you are the worst referee I have ever seen'. Full credit to him, no T, a friendly smile from me, and we now get on fine (up until then I had a lot of trouble with him)."

I had a fellow official tell me the same story except the coach told him, "Well, then, I think you suck." He said he might have whacked him, but he had lost his whistle laughing. It was a coach he had work with several times and had a good relationship with.

I believe this comment was originally from Jim Valvano. The official thought it was so funny, he didn't T him up for it.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

I believe this comment was originally from Jim Valvano. The official thought it was so funny, he didn't T him up for it.

It is even attributed to him "online" (and we know that's always accurate) as being one of his more famous quotes.

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Write on the scoresheet that the game is forfeited, the time of the forfeiture, the reason why and the final score. If the winning team was ahead at the time of the forfeiture, that is the final score, If they were behind, put it down as 2-0. Then leave without making any comments at all to anybody. The R should make out a complete post-game report with all details of the forfeiture and send it to his assignor. His assignor should pass that along to the league/governing body that the forfeiting team was a member of.

Thanks JR!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

I believe this comment was originally from Jim Valvano. The official thought it was so funny, he didn't T him up for it.

Coach: "Do I get a T for thinking something?"

Me: "No, but you might for telling me about it!"

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Coach: "Do I get a T for thinking something?"

Me: "No, but you might for telling me about it!"

That is correct...

THINKING and VERBALIZING are two different actions...

and many times the latter comes before the former.