Crew Integrity

[Smitty]

But you're still just guessing about why he came over and what he said, so the leap to "undermining an official's authority" seems overblown to me. Perhaps it was poor timing, perhaps not. I'm only arguing that no one's authority was undermined based on what you know and how you painted it.

[johnnyrao]

Originally Posted by Smitty

But you're still just guessing about why he came over and what he said, so the leap to "undermining an official's authority" seems overblown to me. Perhaps it was poor timing, perhaps not. I'm only arguing that no one's authority was undermined based on what you know and how you painted it.

Smitty, completely concur with you. In fact, I was always taught that this is exactly the way it should be done. If a non-calling official feels he/she has information about the call, they come to you and tell you what they saw. If you say you saw it differently, they go back and play on. Seems to me like this crew did exaclty that. What I am confused about in the OP is where it says the other official came across and "questioned" the call of the C. Do you know for sure he "questioned" her call, or simply came and said, "Here's what I saw..." and then got what the C called and returned to the game? If anything, from what I read in the OP, the only thing that COULD have been done differently was that the non-calling official could have come over earlier, but he may have delayed since the C was having a conversation with the coach (HTBT on that one).

[Adam]

Agreed, normally I'd like to see the T come over immediately on this; but it's possible he wasn't looking when she signaled and didn't know what her call was.

[Smitty]

Or maybe he came over to help her get away from the coach as their conversation may have been lasting too long in his opinion. We just don't know, so to speculate and go so far as to call it undermining is just not fair.

[EndEx]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Or maybe he came over to help her get away from the coach as their conversation may have been lasting too long in his opinion. We just don't know, so to speculate and go so far as to call it undermining is just not fair.

I specifically stated his intent was not to undermine her; it was obvious to me he wanted to get the call right. It "looked" like the coach's continued questions made him ask her if she was sure of her call. Now that I think about it, you may be right, though.

Reviewing it in my head again, he may have used the quick conference as a way to confirm her call and get the ball back in play. My initial thought as I was watching was that she was allowing the coach way too much time to debate the call.

In the end, the chance of it appearing that way may well have been worth it to cut that conversation short.