Over the backboard shot?

[bpaulson]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Check this out...http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.ele...Rook_09-10.pdf

Rule 8-2-b is essentially the same as the NCAA rule. Page 31 for quick reference.

Rule 8-2-b deals with balls that rebound or are passed but doesn't deal with shots. I think we have to go to 8-2.a as our only hope of stopping circus shots. If the ball hits the supports or the back of the backboard it is dead thus the shot would be no good. (I presume this includes the shot clock and its supports.)

Sorry for the NBA questions but I had to clear this one up before class on Monday. Thanks for the help and the PDF of the NBA rulebook--I will pass it on to the class.

[bas2456]

Disagree. It says that any ball that rebounds or passes...not any ball that rebounds or is passed.

To me, that covers a shot.

[bpaulson]

Then why is it not called? Ok, we can all say that they do not call a lot of stuff in the NBA but this is one they would call.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by bpaulson

Then why is it not called? Ok, we can all say that they do not call a lot of stuff in the NBA but this is one they would call.

Don't have an answer for ya on that one. I'm just giving my opinion on the interpretation.

[bpaulson]

To be honest, the rule is unclear in many ways. It says: Any ball that rebounds or passes directly behind the backboard, in either direction, from any point is considered out-of-bounds.

The NCAA book says passes over the backboard while the NBA rule book makes it sound like if the ball is passed behind the backboard--not necessarily over the backboard--it is out of bounds.

Yet another good reason to watch high school and college ball.

[just another ref]

Without looking.....

Doesn't the NBA rule say it can't go behind the board, as opposed to over the top of the board?

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Without looking.....

Doesn't the NBA rule say it can't go behind the board, as opposed to over the top of the board?

Would that make a pass from one player to another that goes along the endline illegal, since that would be behind the backboard?

[bpaulson]

Yes, my last post was a quote from the NBA book. When they say behind the backboard do they include the virtual plane to the floor and ceiling--I think not.

[APG]

From the 2009-2010 NBA Rule Book

RULE NO. 8—OUT-OF-BOUNDS AND THROW-IN
Section II—Ball
b. Any ball that rebounds or passes directly behind the backboard, in either direction, from any point is considered out-of-bounds.

NBA Casebook 2009-2010

II. BACKBOARD

6. On an unsuccessful field goal attempt, the ball hits the basket ring and rebounds over and behind the face of the backboard. The ball returns to the floor and touches inbounds without having touched any of the backboard supports. Is the ball to remain in play?

No. A violation shall be called on the last team to touch the ball before it went directly behind the backboard. The ball is awarded to the opposing team for a throw-in at the free throw line extended.
RULE 8 - SECTION II - b

7. Player A1 has control of the ball near the endline and passes the ball behind the backboard (never touching the supports) to Player A2. Is this legal or illegal?

Illegal. Same reason as #6 above.
RULE 8 - SECTION II - b

The ball is only out of bounds if it passes DIRECTLY over the backboard in either direction. Two shots by Kobe Bryant and LeBron James earlier in the season were legal because they did not pass directly over the top of the backboard but at an angle.

And looking at the play in question, that would be a legal play under NBA rules as it was not directly over the top of the backboard

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bpaulson

Then why is it not called? Ok, we can all say that they do not call a lot of stuff in the NBA but this is one they would call.

They do call it when it happens quite a few times. I have seen it called several times over the years. Of course I am sure it is missed from time to time as angles can affect an official's perspective, but yes it gets called. Then again I do not watch a lot of NBA so I have not idea.

Peace