Over the backboard shot?

[bpaulson]

Yes, I agree but I teach a college officiating class and my students insist on discussing NBA plays and rules. This is the video we are discussing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-I2XckUnUk

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by bpaulson

Yes, I agree but I teach a college officiating class and my students insist on discussing NBA plays and rules. This is the video that we are discussing - YouTube - Circus Shot: Ellis Goes Over the Backboard

Check this out...http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.ele...Rook_09-10.pdf

Rule 8-2-b is essentially the same as the NCAA rule. Page 31 for quick reference.

[bas2456]

By the way...you're the teacher...lay down the law!

[bpaulson]

I have tried that but they seem to like to watch too much TV. I have told them that NBA stands for Not Basketball Association but they are not buying.

[bas2456]

They're not the only ones...I've had several players this year who think they can get away with what LeBron and Kobe get away with.

Not so much

[bpaulson]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Check this out...http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.ele...Rook_09-10.pdf

Rule 8-2-b is essentially the same as the NCAA rule. Page 31 for quick reference.

Rule 8-2-b deals with balls that rebound or are passed but doesn't deal with shots. I think we have to go to 8-2.a as our only hope of stopping circus shots. If the ball hits the supports or the back of the backboard it is dead thus the shot would be no good. (I presume this includes the shot clock and its supports.)

Sorry for the NBA questions but I had to clear this one up before class on Monday. Thanks for the help and the PDF of the NBA rulebook--I will pass it on to the class.

[bas2456]

Disagree. It says that any ball that rebounds or passes...not any ball that rebounds or is passed.

To me, that covers a shot.

[bpaulson]

Then why is it not called? Ok, we can all say that they do not call a lot of stuff in the NBA but this is one they would call.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by bpaulson

Then why is it not called? Ok, we can all say that they do not call a lot of stuff in the NBA but this is one they would call.

Don't have an answer for ya on that one. I'm just giving my opinion on the interpretation.

[bpaulson]

To be honest, the rule is unclear in many ways. It says: Any ball that rebounds or passes directly behind the backboard, in either direction, from any point is considered out-of-bounds.

The NCAA book says passes over the backboard while the NBA rule book makes it sound like if the ball is passed behind the backboard--not necessarily over the backboard--it is out of bounds.

Yet another good reason to watch high school and college ball.

[just another ref]

Without looking.....

Doesn't the NBA rule say it can't go behind the board, as opposed to over the top of the board?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bpaulson

Then why is it not called? Ok, we can all say that they do not call a lot of stuff in the NBA but this is one they would call.

They do call it when it happens quite a few times. I have seen it called several times over the years. Of course I am sure it is missed from time to time as angles can affect an official's perspective, but yes it gets called. Then again I do not watch a lot of NBA so I have not idea.

Peace