Allowing a Coach to Call a Timeout

[CDurham]

How long has it been since only a Player on the court could call a Time-out? When was the allowance made for Coaches

Thanks

[representing]

Originally Posted by CDurham

How long has it been since only a Player on the court could call a Time-out? When was the allowance made for Coaches

Thanks

I can't even remember a time when a coach couldn't request a time out. For as long as I can remember coaches can request at time out.

BTW, you're gonna get ripped apart by some of the guys on the forum if you don't say "request". Coaches can't call time outs... they can request it, officials grant it. Just a fair warning

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by representing

BTW, you're gonna get ripped apart by some of the guys on the forum if you don't say "request". Coaches can't call time outs... they can request it, officials grant it. Just a fair warning

What he said

Seriously though, it's a good thing to get used to using the correct terminology.....

[CDurham]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

What he said

Seriously though, it's a good thing to get used to using the correct terminology.....

Haha yeah its a habit to break going from player to official. You always hear from coaches "Call timeout"

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by representing

I can't even remember a time when a coach couldn't request a time out. For as long as I can remember coaches can request at time out.

BTW, you're gonna get ripped apart by some of the guys on the forum if you don't say "request". Coaches can't call time outs... they can request it, officials grant it. Just a fair warning

It is a good distinction to make because coaches must know that just because they say "timeout" that does not mean it is supposed to be granted automatically.

And for the record I hate this rule as I think coaches overreact or assume a lot of things as a result of their request. They should teach their players to request a timeout as we are actually paying attention to them.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Our local kids rec league doesn't allow coaches to request timeouts. OK - they can try, but we ignore them.

Oh yeah - we also don't have a coaches box. Can you tell that all four members of our rules committee are officials?

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is a good distinction to make because coaches must know that just because they say "timeout" that does not mean it is supposed to be granted automatically.

And for the record I hate this rule as I think coaches overreact or assume a lot of things as a result of their request. They should teach their players to request a timeout as we are actually paying attention to them.

Peace

I'm beginning to despise the rule as well. It's difficult to pick out the coach's voice in an intense situation more often than not, especially when we're on the other side of the court from their bench.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is a good distinction to make because coaches must know that just because they say "timeout" that does not mean it is supposed to be granted automatically.

And for the record I hate this rule as I think coaches overreact or assume a lot of things as a result of their request. They should teach their players to request a timeout as we are actually paying attention to them.

Peace

I agree. Especially in areas where we work only 2 man, there's a lot of things we have to be paying attention to, and listening for a coach's T.O. request is low on the priority list. This one I would like to see changed back to what it used to be - only a player on the floor can request a timeout.

[representing]

The other thing is that I'm so used to going over to the table to say "Blue Time out, 30 seconds, COACH, start timer". But when a player requests a time out, I will remember the number but I say "coach" by accident at the table and then say "I mean, number 32".

I'm sure that happens to a lot of us.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by representing

I'm sure that happens to a lot of us.

No, it doesn't. Clearly a lot of things happen to you that don't happen to most of the rest of us.

[trsandy]

I was coaching a game on Monday, where our player was in the process of tying up the other team's player in a jump ball, when the opposing team's coach yelled time-out!!! He was granted the time-out and the jump-ball change of possession was avoided. I told the ref that he did not need to grant the time-out, especially when there was a question as to whether which team was controlling the ball.

Can you professionals illuminate the ruling a little more?

[representing]

Originally Posted by trsandy

I was coaching a game on Monday, where our player was in the process of tying up the other team's player in a jump ball, when the opposing team's coach yelled time-out!!! He was granted the time-out and the jump-ball change of possession was avoided. I told the ref that he did not need to grant the time-out, especially when there was a question as to whether which team was controlling the ball.

Can you professionals illuminate the ruling a little more?

When there is a held ball situation, no one can request time out. But happens sometimes though, is that the held ball situation will happen, let's say for now, in the corner of the L, and the T doesn't see it is a held ball situation when a coach yells for a time out and the T will stop the ball dead to grant it. But the rules say that once a time out is granted, it cannot be revoked. So you have the time out and you restart the game with that team having the ball OOB.

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by trsandy

I was coaching a game on Monday, where our player was in the process of tying up the other team's player in a jump ball, when the opposing team's coach yelled time-out!!! He was granted the time-out and the jump-ball change of possession was avoided. I told the ref that he did not need to grant the time-out, especially when there was a question as to whether which team was controlling the ball.

Can you professionals illuminate the ruling a little more?

As you describe it I wouldn't agree that there was a question as to whether or not a team was in posession. This was not a loose ball your opponent had posession of it. Therefore I'm guessing the official ruled that the coach called timeout before your player tied it up. You are correct that he didn't "have to" grant it, but if his team clearly has control then there isn't really a reason why he wouldn't. Don't confuse this with a situation where there is a loose ball and two players are going after it vying for control, in that case I would tend to withhold granting the TO request until it was clear to me that one of the players has control.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by trsandy

I was coaching a game on Monday, where our player was in the process of tying up the other team's player in a jump ball, when the opposing team's coach yelled time-out!!! He was granted the time-out and the jump-ball change of possession was avoided. I told the ref that he did not need to grant the time-out, especially when there was a question as to whether which team was controlling the ball.

Can you professionals illuminate the ruling a little more?

I'm seeing a situation in my head where the other team was holding the ball and your player was trying to tie him up. If the coach's request came even a split second before your player succeeded in tying up the opponent, the TO should be granted.

If the TO was requested after the ball was truly tied up, and the official blew his whistle to grant it; he should grant it but put the ball back into play with the arrow.

Note, the request doesn't have to come before the defense touches the ball; it needs to come before the official judges the ball is tied up. It's a judgment call all the way.

[jdw3018]

It was some time in the late 90s IIRC. Players still had to request them when I played, but coaches could request them when I started calling...at least, that's how I remember it.