Allowing a Coach to Call a Timeout

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by representing

I can't even remember a time when a coach couldn't request a time out. For as long as I can remember coaches can request at time out.

BTW, you're gonna get ripped apart by some of the guys on the forum if you don't say "request". Coaches can't call time outs... they can request it, officials grant it. Just a fair warning

It is a good distinction to make because coaches must know that just because they say "timeout" that does not mean it is supposed to be granted automatically.

And for the record I hate this rule as I think coaches overreact or assume a lot of things as a result of their request. They should teach their players to request a timeout as we are actually paying attention to them.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Our local kids rec league doesn't allow coaches to request timeouts. OK - they can try, but we ignore them.

Oh yeah - we also don't have a coaches box. Can you tell that all four members of our rules committee are officials?

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is a good distinction to make because coaches must know that just because they say "timeout" that does not mean it is supposed to be granted automatically.

And for the record I hate this rule as I think coaches overreact or assume a lot of things as a result of their request. They should teach their players to request a timeout as we are actually paying attention to them.

Peace

I'm beginning to despise the rule as well. It's difficult to pick out the coach's voice in an intense situation more often than not, especially when we're on the other side of the court from their bench.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It is a good distinction to make because coaches must know that just because they say "timeout" that does not mean it is supposed to be granted automatically.

And for the record I hate this rule as I think coaches overreact or assume a lot of things as a result of their request. They should teach their players to request a timeout as we are actually paying attention to them.

Peace

I agree. Especially in areas where we work only 2 man, there's a lot of things we have to be paying attention to, and listening for a coach's T.O. request is low on the priority list. This one I would like to see changed back to what it used to be - only a player on the floor can request a timeout.

[representing]

The other thing is that I'm so used to going over to the table to say "Blue Time out, 30 seconds, COACH, start timer". But when a player requests a time out, I will remember the number but I say "coach" by accident at the table and then say "I mean, number 32".

I'm sure that happens to a lot of us.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by representing

I'm sure that happens to a lot of us.

No, it doesn't. Clearly a lot of things happen to you that don't happen to most of the rest of us.

[representing]

Originally Posted by Smitty

No, it doesn't. Clearly a lot of things happen to you that don't happen to most of the rest of us.

You mean to tell me that after a whole season of only coaches requesting a time out, that in your last game of the season a player requests a time out and you go over to the table and don't even slightly have to think about it for a second and say in your head "right, a player requested it this time".

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by representing

You mean to tell me that after a whole season of only coaches requesting a time out, that in your last game of the season a player requests a time out and you go over to the table and don't even slightly have to think about it for a second and say in your head "right, a player requested it this time".

That's exactly what I'm telling you. It just happened this past week as a matter of fact. Probably the second player timeout I've had this season. No problem at all reporting the number. I work hard at this job. I don't find myself in any of the bizarre situations you post about regularly. There is a correlation there...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

No, it doesn't. Clearly a lot of things happen to you that don't happen to most of the rest of us.

Of all the things to jump on him about, this seems awfully petty to me. I can tell you I've had exactly one player request a timeout in the past 4 seasons, and I flat out forgot to even get his number.

Further more, I couldn't even tell you where it's written that we're supposed to get the number.
Disregard, I found it in the mechanics, but stand by the rest.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Of all the things to jump on him about, this seems awfully petty to me. I can tell you I've had exactly one player request a timeout in the past 4 seasons, and I flat out forgot to even get his number.

I hardly jumped on him. I don't really care if you think it's petty. At the lower levels, the kids aren't as savvy to think about calling timeout when they are on the floor with the ball and it's about to be tied up - the coach is usually the one who calls timeout in that situation. The varsity kids are a little smarter and will do this quite often.

[trsandy]

I was coaching a game on Monday, where our player was in the process of tying up the other team's player in a jump ball, when the opposing team's coach yelled time-out!!! He was granted the time-out and the jump-ball change of possession was avoided. I told the ref that he did not need to grant the time-out, especially when there was a question as to whether which team was controlling the ball.

Can you professionals illuminate the ruling a little more?

[representing]

Originally Posted by trsandy

I was coaching a game on Monday, where our player was in the process of tying up the other team's player in a jump ball, when the opposing team's coach yelled time-out!!! He was granted the time-out and the jump-ball change of possession was avoided. I told the ref that he did not need to grant the time-out, especially when there was a question as to whether which team was controlling the ball.

Can you professionals illuminate the ruling a little more?

When there is a held ball situation, no one can request time out. But happens sometimes though, is that the held ball situation will happen, let's say for now, in the corner of the L, and the T doesn't see it is a held ball situation when a coach yells for a time out and the T will stop the ball dead to grant it. But the rules say that once a time out is granted, it cannot be revoked. So you have the time out and you restart the game with that team having the ball OOB.

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by representing

When there is a held ball situation, no one can request time out.

Really?

[representing]

Originally Posted by slow whistle

Really?

5-8-3a

The ball is in control or at the disposal of a player of his/her team.

A player does not have control of ball during a held-ball situation.

Held ball definition: 4-25-1 (for this case)

Opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness.

So yes, you cannot request timeouts when held-ball happens because no one has full control of the ball.

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by representing

5-8-3a

The ball is in control or at the disposal of a player of his/her team.

A player does not have control of ball during a held-ball situation.

Held ball definition: 4-25-1 (for this case)

Opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness.

So yes, you cannot request timeouts when held-ball happens because no one has full control of the ball.

Check your vocabulary. And yes it makes a difference.