Fight!!!!!!!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

And looking at the physical stature of #10 I would THINK about tossing him, FOR HIS OWN SAFETY!!!

Please tell me that you were kidding when you wrote that.

If not, that statement ties for the dumbest ever made on this forum.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Please tell me that you were kidding when you wrote that.

If not, that statement ties for the dumbest ever made on this forum.

Yes I was joking, although the thought of holding the title "Dumbest Post Ever Made" is a very tempting.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Yes I was joking, although the thought of holding the title "Dumbest Post Ever Made" is a very tempting.

It's a very high bar. So high, in fact, you'll only be able to tie it no matter how hard you try.

[tjones1]

I dunno... I guess I'll be the lone one here but I'm still getting rid of white #10.

After getting decked, he basically took a full step toward black #23 as he was walking away and shoved him in the back.

Again, just my take on the situation.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I dunno... I guess I'll be the lone one here but I'm still getting rid of white #10.

After getting decked, he basically took a full step toward black #23 as he was walking away and shoved him in the back.

Again, just my take on the situation.

If white #10 had shoved black #23 like that during a dead ball with no other action would you have run him?

I totally defend your right to run him, but the rationale would need to be the same regardless of other action.

Personally this is getting a T from me, and would at any other point in the game. It's not flagrant, IMO. He's also not getting a pass from me because B23 punched him. It was not to protect himself.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tjones1

After getting decked, he basically took a full step toward black #23 as he was walking away and shoved him in the back.

Take a look at #23's right arm. He puts it on the l'il guy after the cheap shot, #10 kinda holds it for a second so that 23 can't smack him again with it, and that arm doesn't come off until #10 pushed him away.

#10 didn't retaliate by fighting. He protected himself from getting another cheap shot.

can't agree at all with you on that one, Tanner.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Take a look at #23's right arm. He puts it on the l'il guy after the cheap shot, #10 kinda holds it for a second so that 23 can't smack him again with it, and that arm doesn't come off until #10 pushed him away.

#10 didn't retaliate by fighting. He protected himself from getting another cheap shot.

While I agree with you that W10 doesn't commit a flagrant foul, I disagree he shoved to protect himself. B23 is walking away from him when he shoves him.

[tjones1]

After another look I see what you are talking about JR... however, white #10 also took a fist full of black #23's jersey with his other hand.

While I agree that it was probably natural for white #10 to grab the arm closest to him, black #23 was turning and walking away. Then white #10 took a step and shoved him.

I certainly can't blame white #10 for doing what he did after he got jacked. But if I only had one look at it and I saw what white #10 did I would of had a flagrant technical.

Again, I think it'd be interesting to see what the Fed's ruling on this would be. I would have a hard time believing they would allow white #10 to stay in the game... but who knows.

[CoachCER]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

While I agree with you that W10 doesn't commit a flagrant foul, I disagree he shoved to protect himself. B23 is walking away from him when he shoves him.

B23 still has his hand in W10's chect. I can see why W10 is going to push away the person who just jacked him the face if they still are making contact, whether W23 is walking away or not. Remember that this happened second after he was just jacked in the face with absolutely no provocation.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I dunno... I guess I'll be the lone one here but I'm still getting rid of white #10.

After getting decked, he basically took a full step toward black #23 as he was walking away and shoved him in the back.

Again, just my take on the situation.

You're not crazy. I agree with you. Instincts and all, he did what he did, and what he did, to me, falls under 4-18-2. What he did clearly incited the original sucker-puncher to come back at him looking for more.

I'm running him.