Most common mistake by refs

[Berkut]

RE: the throw in diagram....

Why do so many officials place the ball for a throw in just outside the lane on the endline, no matter where the violation occurred along the endline (or on the court if we are "pushing" down to the endline)?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Berkut

RE: the throw in diagram....

Why do so many officials place the ball for a throw in just outside the lane on the endline, no matter where the violation occurred along the endline (or on the court if we are "pushing" down to the endline)?

I'm a throw-in spot stickler like several of the others, and nowhere moreso than on the endline. Obviously, the ball is never put in inside the lane lines extended so anything that happens in the lane ends up at that spot just outside the lane. However, I'll move players out to the correct spot several times during each game.

"24, take a step out here for me" is a pretty common occurrence in my games.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I'm a throw-in spot stickler like several of the others, and nowhere moreso than on the endline. Obviously, the ball is never put in inside the lane lines extended so anything that happens in the lane ends up at that spot just outside the lane. However, I'll move players out to the correct spot several times during each game.

"24, take a step out here for me" is a pretty common occurrence in my games.

Me too.

"42, out here."
pause while he moves a little
"Three more steps, please."
pause while he moves to the spot.
"Thank you."

Or, I'll find a marking on the floor, "Right here on the "S"."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'll find a marking on the floor, "Right here on the "S"."

During a timeout an assistant coach came out of the huddle to ask me where the throwin would be. I pointed to the endline and said, "Right between the T and the S". He replied, "Thanks". I think he thought I was being serious.

[buckrog64]

Where's the throw-in? is one less question to be asked if the refs are in proper position, but coaches don't always realize that. Sometimes they can't even look at bench to figure out who has the possession of the ball at the beginning of a quarter. Maybe if a crowd is getting excited, I might be a few steps in from the side line, at the throw-in site. Otherwise, if I have the administration for the throw in, where I am, you also will be.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

The problem is that more refs than not actually don't stand at the spot, thus the coach having to ask where the spot is. Further officials do not always administor the throw-in at the proper spot hence the need to ask.

You are not supposed to stand at the spot. At least not all the time or even in many situations it is not possible or recommended.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You are not supposed to stand at the spot. At least not all the time or even in many situations it is not possible or recommended.

Peace

Must be an Illinois thing. Fed mechanics have one official at the spot unless the spot is at or near either bench.

[MelbRef]

Good points on endline throw-in spots.

From a coaches perspective (past life), you will call a timeout with the ball in the lane, to set up a final second in-bound play right under the basket.

Imagine how frustrating it would be when the ball is put in play on the sideline.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by MelbRef

Good points on endline throw-in spots.

From a coaches perspective (past life), you will call a timeout with the ball in the lane, to set up a final second in-bound play right under the basket.

Imagine how frustrating it would be when the ball is put in play on the sideline.

It's been my experience that an asst coach will usually ask where the ball will be put into play after I, or my partner, report the timeout to the table.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DLH17

It's been my experience that an asst coach will usually ask where the ball will be put into play after I, or my partner, report the timeout to the table.

I had a game last week where the AC would ask every time. Other than that, I've been asked less than 5 times all year.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I had a game last week where the AC would ask every time. Other than that, I've been asked less than 5 times all year.

I always make sure my and partner and I know where the ball will be inbounded. Is there NFHS protocol for notifiying one or both coaches/benches?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DLH17

I always make sure my and partner and I know where the ball will be inbounded. Is there NFHS protocol for notifiying one or both coaches/benches?

That's why the timeout mechanic has one official standing at the spot. If they ask, I'll say "right here" or point to the sideline if I'm standing in front of the bench where the throwin will be.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by MelbRef

Good points on endline throw-in spots.

From a coaches perspective (past life), you will call a timeout with the ball in the lane, to set up a final second in-bound play right under the basket.

Imagine how frustrating it would be when the ball is put in play on the sideline.

This is why, in addition to making sure I've designated a spot after granting a timeout (and before reporting it) I am also a big believe in proper mechanics. An official should be at the throw-in spot with the ball. If you're wondering around with the ball, coaches can get confused about where the throw-in spot will be.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

This is why, in addition to making sure I've designated a spot after granting a timeout (and before reporting it) I am also a big believe in proper mechanics. An official should be at the throw-in spot with the ball. If you're wondering around with the ball, coaches can get confused about where the throw-in spot will be.

If that is all we are required to do (which we doo doo), then that answers the question.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by DLH17

If that is all we are required to do (which we doo doo), then that answers the question.

Yep, proper mechanics will notify anyone who wants to know. That said, if someone comes out of the huddle to ask we should definitely indicate for them.

It's helpful if you can point to your P and say "right where he's standing."