Most common mistake by refs

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

How do explain those officials then who call every bit of contact a foul?

Sure, they may avoid "problems" but they're calling a horrible game.

I notice this a lot at camps I am evaluating at or ones I attend for mostly high school officials. There are a lot of calls that I see made that are clearly not fouls or that are not violations. And it really goes for traveling violations. There are many of those that just are not there or not control of the ball.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I notice this a lot at camps I am evaluating at or ones I attend for mostly high school officials. There are a lot of calls that I see made that are clearly not fouls or that are not violations. And it really goes for traveling violations. There are many of those that just are not there or not control of the ball.

That statement reminds me of a lesson I learned early in my modest career (from the trail position on 2 man crew) - pass on the urge to call a traveling violation IF you cannot see the ball. It sounds like a no brainer - however, I got caught up in watching the ballhandler begin a drive to the bucket from my zone to the baseline where he appeared to take too many steps with possession of the ball. In fact, his back was to me....the lead official had a clear view of the ball...ballhandler had lost control of the ball....and I blew my whistle. Mistake.

Ouch.

Never again.

I see it all the time now, though. Great teaching point.

[Berkut]

RE: the throw in diagram....

Why do so many officials place the ball for a throw in just outside the lane on the endline, no matter where the violation occurred along the endline (or on the court if we are "pushing" down to the endline)?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Berkut

RE: the throw in diagram....

Why do so many officials place the ball for a throw in just outside the lane on the endline, no matter where the violation occurred along the endline (or on the court if we are "pushing" down to the endline)?

I'm a throw-in spot stickler like several of the others, and nowhere moreso than on the endline. Obviously, the ball is never put in inside the lane lines extended so anything that happens in the lane ends up at that spot just outside the lane. However, I'll move players out to the correct spot several times during each game.

"24, take a step out here for me" is a pretty common occurrence in my games.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I'm a throw-in spot stickler like several of the others, and nowhere moreso than on the endline. Obviously, the ball is never put in inside the lane lines extended so anything that happens in the lane ends up at that spot just outside the lane. However, I'll move players out to the correct spot several times during each game.

"24, take a step out here for me" is a pretty common occurrence in my games.

Me too.

"42, out here."
pause while he moves a little
"Three more steps, please."
pause while he moves to the spot.
"Thank you."

Or, I'll find a marking on the floor, "Right here on the "S"."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'll find a marking on the floor, "Right here on the "S"."

During a timeout an assistant coach came out of the huddle to ask me where the throwin would be. I pointed to the endline and said, "Right between the T and the S". He replied, "Thanks". I think he thought I was being serious.

[buckrog64]

Where's the throw-in? is one less question to be asked if the refs are in proper position, but coaches don't always realize that. Sometimes they can't even look at bench to figure out who has the possession of the ball at the beginning of a quarter. Maybe if a crowd is getting excited, I might be a few steps in from the side line, at the throw-in site. Otherwise, if I have the administration for the throw in, where I am, you also will be.

[MelbRef]

Good points on endline throw-in spots.

From a coaches perspective (past life), you will call a timeout with the ball in the lane, to set up a final second in-bound play right under the basket.

Imagine how frustrating it would be when the ball is put in play on the sideline.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by MelbRef

Good points on endline throw-in spots.

From a coaches perspective (past life), you will call a timeout with the ball in the lane, to set up a final second in-bound play right under the basket.

Imagine how frustrating it would be when the ball is put in play on the sideline.

It's been my experience that an asst coach will usually ask where the ball will be put into play after I, or my partner, report the timeout to the table.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DLH17

It's been my experience that an asst coach will usually ask where the ball will be put into play after I, or my partner, report the timeout to the table.

I had a game last week where the AC would ask every time. Other than that, I've been asked less than 5 times all year.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by MelbRef

Good points on endline throw-in spots.

From a coaches perspective (past life), you will call a timeout with the ball in the lane, to set up a final second in-bound play right under the basket.

Imagine how frustrating it would be when the ball is put in play on the sideline.

This is why, in addition to making sure I've designated a spot after granting a timeout (and before reporting it) I am also a big believe in proper mechanics. An official should be at the throw-in spot with the ball. If you're wondering around with the ball, coaches can get confused about where the throw-in spot will be.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

This is why, in addition to making sure I've designated a spot after granting a timeout (and before reporting it) I am also a big believe in proper mechanics. An official should be at the throw-in spot with the ball. If you're wondering around with the ball, coaches can get confused about where the throw-in spot will be.

If that is all we are required to do (which we doo doo), then that answers the question.

[asdf]

Most common mistake ??

Ball watching.....

[Gargil]

I was told at a camp regarding the throw in spot that you were not to have a throw in from directly behind the backboard and that if a ball goes out of bounds in the corner to bring the throw in spot 2 or 3 feet up the end line or the sideline as to not pin the thrower dirctly in the corner.
Is this propoer mechanics??