Most common mistake by refs

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

the most common mistake that officials make (at any level or at any experience level) is simply....not blowing the whistle enough.

99.99999% of problems in a game come from not blowing the whistle. the "default" that most new officials have (which carries over to their later years) is to not blow the whistle.

How do explain those officials then who call every bit of contact a foul?

Sure, they may avoid "problems" but they're calling a horrible game.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Funny you said that. I just worked with an official that is a veteran that put the ball in play after a backcourt violation at the division line, when the touching of the ball (that actually caused the violation) in the backcourt below the top of the 3 point line. I did not make a big deal out of it, but I knew it was wrong. I do not think I have seen someone do that in a long time.

I had the same situation in reverse. Touch was at the free throw line. I called the violation. Throw-in at the end line. Next timeout, my veteran partner asked what the call was. I told him backcourt. He asked why the throw-in was "down there." I said that's where the violation happened. He said nothing else, but his expression said that he thought I didn't know what I was doing.

This one may be worthy of a spot on Billy Mac's list.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This one may be worthy of a spot on Billy Mac's list.

After a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throwin from an out of bounds spot nearest the violation. This is especially true for a backcourt violation, where the ball may not necessarily be put in play at the division line, but, rather, is always put back in play at the spot nearest the violation.

And, it's not my list, I'm only the keeper of the list.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

After a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throwin from an out of bounds spot nearest the violation. This is especially true for a backcourt violation, where the ball may not necessarily be put in play at the division line, but, rather, is always put back in play at the spot nearest the violation.

Had a seasoned partner use this diagram to emphasize the throw-in locations could only be the specific spots where the arrows point, especially on the sidelines. Still have scars on my lips as I bit myself to avoid laughing in his face.

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

After a violation, the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throwin from an out of bounds spot nearest the violation. This is especially true for a backcourt violation, where the ball may not necessarily be put in play at the division line, but, rather, is always put back in play at the spot nearest the violation.

I will say that I am sometimes unsure on the spot for a throw-in, particularly when a violation or foul is midway between the lane and the arc, if it's sideline or endline.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

I will say that I am sometimes unsure on the spot for a throw-in, particularly when a violation or foul is midway between the lane and the arc, if it's sideline or endline.

It would be more helpful if everything inside the arc would go baseline, but mainly you just have to look, make a judgment, and designate the spot. When I work with a partner who doesn't give a spot on a foul or violation, I will go to where I think it is coming in and will try to get the partner to verify. If I can't, I use my best judgment. It's one of my pet peeves.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It would be more helpful if everything inside the arc would go baseline, but mainly you just have to look, make a judgment, and designate the spot. When I work with a partner who doesn't give a spot on a foul or violation, I will go to where I think it is coming in and will try to get the partner to verify. If I can't, I use my best judgment. It's one of my pet peeves.

Hence, why I brought it up back at Post #8.

It's actually one of the few times I might blow my whistle more than once - when I want to get my partner's attention and show him OVER THERE, not where you are now. Where I'm pointing (and pointed to earlier)! And, I'm only going to do this if my P is off by a lot (like when they're on the endline when it should be on the sideline or he's near the free throw lane extended and it should be near the corner).

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by MelbRef

Other situations?

1) Not stopping the clock with an upraised arm.
2) Calling the all-too-cool "On the Floor!", when "habitual shooting motion" had obviously started.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Freddy

1) Not stopping the clock with an upraised arm.

Mistake?

Nah, the whistle stops the clock in every game I've worked.

It's a local thing.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Mistake?

Nah, the whistle stops the clock in every game I've worked.

It's a local thing.

What happens in a loud gym ? Not many schools have PTS.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by asdf

What happens in a loud gym ? Not many schools have PTS.

You blow the whistle louder or use one of those new SonikBlasts.

Raising the hand on an out-of-bounds call does nothing to improve the clock stopping, in my experience. The officials in non-PTS NCAA games don't raise their hands (in general) and the clock stops just fine.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

You blow the whistle louder or use one of those new SonikBlasts.

Raising the hand on an out-of-bounds call does nothing to improve the clock stopping, in my experience. The officials in non-PTS NCAA games don't raise their hands (in general) and the clock stops just fine.

Why then, blow the whistle at all?

Lazy on mechanics, generally means lazy elsewhere. (in general)

[KJUmp]

[QUOTE=MelbRef;659286]Just wondering what everyone else here thinks.

As I work with newer refs, it seems like the most common error is placement of the inbound after an over-and-back violation.

From a new guy....here's just one of mine....
Remembering to get my arm up with open palm when calling a violation.
I have the bad habit (still) of blowing and pointing the direction on OOB plays, and blowing and going straight to the travel signal on traveling calls.
Ditto on carrying, double dribble, kick, etc.
Working on it, esp. down at the rec level where the slower pace has really allowed to focus on proper signals and better timing.