NCAA injured player rule

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Okay, need some help here from someone who knows NCAA rules.

Watching a D1 game live today. V11 drives to the basket and is fouled by H44 while attempting a shot. (Lead called it, but Trail came in with the intentional....it was definitely a foul but the intentional part was very questionable)
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I saw that play(St. Louis@Richmond?). When the foul occurred I immediately thought intentional/excessive contact was a possibility. When the trail came in with "crossed arms" I was glad my instincts were validated.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I saw that play(St. Louis@Richmond?). When the foul occurred I immediately thought intentional/excessive contact was a possibility. When the trail came in with "crossed arms" I was glad my instincts were validated.

No, it was actually Northern Iowa at Missouri State.

Here is the video. It's toward the end and they replay it during the interview. Yes, I know that they keep using the term "flagrant"....

Video : Panthers Nip Missouri State 55-54

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by zm1283

No, it was actually Northern Iowa at Missouri State.

Here is the video. It's toward the end and they replay it during the interview. Yes, I know that they keep using the term "flagrant"....

Video : Panthers Nip Missouri State 55-54

Oh...well that is an easy "excessive contact" foul...perfect call.

Not sure how you consider it "questionable".

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Oh...well that is an easy "excessive contact" foul...perfect call.

Not sure how you consider it "questionable".

Look at it in this video about 10 seconds in.

YouTube - Northern Iowa at Misouri State mens basketball, Jan. 30

The only part of the defender that touches the shooter is his left arm, which makes contact with the shooter's arm and the ball. The fall looked nasty, but it wasn't because of any excessive contact.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Look at it in this video about 10 seconds in.

YouTube - Northern Iowa at Misouri State mens basketball, Jan. 30

The only part of the defender that touches the shooter is his left arm, which makes contact with the shooter's arm and the ball. The fall looked nasty, but it wasn't because of any excessive contact.

There is absolutely no way from that video that you can say it wasn't excessive contact.

It looked like a clothesline on an airborne player to me. I have no problem with the intentional.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

There is absolutely no way from that video that you can say it wasn't excessive contact.

It looked like a clothesline on an airborne player to me. I have no problem with the intentional.

Why? After watching it live and seeing that video, I don't see how the Trail could come and get that. The Lead had a much better look at the defender's left arm (That one that actually made contact), and the right arm didn't touch the shooter. I realize the drive started in the Trail's area, but I thought he was reaching quite a bit. (For full disclosure, I am a fan of the home team)

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Why? After watching it live and seeing that video, I don't see how the Trail could come and get that. The Lead had a much better look at the defender's left arm (That one that actually made contact), and the right arm didn't touch the shooter. I realize the drive started in the Trail's area, but I thought he was reaching quite a bit. (For full disclosure, I am a fan of the home team)

I'm just saying that the video you show is no indicator either way. I could make an argument for why it absolutely should be excessive contact as easily as you make the argument that it shouldn't be.

Considering this was C that called it (not T - L was across the lane) he was the only official with a good angle on the play.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Why? After watching it live and seeing that video, I don't see how the Trail could come and get that. The Lead had a much better look at the defender's left arm (That one that actually made contact), and the right arm didn't touch the shooter. I realize the drive started in the Trail's area, but I thought he was reaching quite a bit. (For full disclosure, I am a fan of the home team)

This was a no brainer. A textbook call by a quality crew.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Look at it in this video about 10 seconds in.

YouTube - Northern Iowa at Misouri State mens basketball, Jan. 30

The only part of the defender that touches the shooter is his left arm, which makes contact with the shooter's arm and the ball. The fall looked nasty, but it wasn't because of any excessive contact.

You cannot see all the contact from the angle this was taken. The original video you posted from the same angle as the C's viewpoint indicates contact to the head. And it was the C who made the "crossed arms" signal.