Signalling number with two hands

[ripcord51]

Ok Say I want to be a cool guy and signal the fouls to the table with two hands. If I call a foul on number 20, Which hand to I put the 2 in while looking at the table?

[tomegun]

You do it from your right to left so they can read it from their left to right. 2 with your right, zero with your left.

Is this really an indication of someone trying to be cool or just another method to communicate. At the end of the day, besides what you are told locally, does it make a difference?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by tomegun

At the end of the day, besides what you are told locally, does it make a difference?

Well, it depends on how you view the official NFHS mechanics. If you interpret them loosely, as a general indication of how we're to do things, subject to our local association, then I guess two hands is okay.

But, if you feel that, in order to be uniform with officials across the country, or for other reasons, you should stick to what the officials manual says, yes, it does make a difference, as the manual tells us to use one hand.

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by ripcord51

Ok Say I want to be a cool guy and signal the fouls to the table with two hands. If I call a foul on number 20, Which hand to I put the 2 in while looking at the table?

Forget trying to be cool, look professional and use one hand. Start with the 2.

[jkohls]

Here's a situation the wise ones:
As a teenager, I lost my left index finger (actually, I knew exactly where it landed, but...). It now ends basically at the knuckle. I signal all numbers with my right hand. The only time I feel it may be an issue is on free throws. I had an older guy on the front row behind me a couple weeks ago ask "How is he going to shoot one and half free throws?" I know the guy, so it wasn't a big deal, and I had to chuckle.


If you were me, what would you do, signal-wise?

BTW, signaling that an attempt is for 3-pts is so much easier for me than the rest of you.

[muxbule]

Originally Posted by ripcord51

Ok Say I want to be a cool guy and signal the fouls to the table with two hands. If I call a foul on number 20, Which hand to I put the 2 in while looking at the table?

Two hand signaling is frowned upon in my association. Not cool

[chseagle]

In FIBA, according to what I've read, the numbers allowed are 4-15. When reporting a number after 10, the right hand is closed with the left hand showing 1-5 fingers. For single digits above 5, the mechanic/procedure is the right hand shows 5, the left hands shows the additional numer of fingers needed for 6-10.

However I thought that for NFHS reporting all fouls are actually supposed to be reported one-handed. When the 1st number is called, the palm of the hand is supposed to be facing the official with the numer of fingers showing for that number. The second numer is done via palm facing the table with the appropriate fingers.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

However I thought that for NFHS reporting all fouls are actually supposed to be reported one-handed. When the 1st number is called, the palm of the hand is supposed to be facing the official with the numer of fingers showing for that number. The second numer is done via palm facing the table with the appropriate fingers.

Not surprisingly, this isn't correct.

[amusedofficial]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not surprisingly, this isn't correct.

It would be considerably more helpful to a) omit the cheap shot in the first clause and b) provide correct information following the second clause. Obviously the lad is at the table when various officials, presumably including veterans, use an incorrect mechanic. If he's learning by watching he needs to be set straight when what he's watching is not correct, not slammed for raising a question, as indicated by the phrase "However I thought..." which is anything but a pronouncement than an incorrect mechanic is correct.

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

It would be considerably more helpful to a) omit the cheap shot in the first clause and b) provide correct information following the second clause. Obviously the lad is at the table when various officials, presumably including veterans, use an incorrect mechanic. If he's learning by watching he needs to be set straight when what he's watching is not correct, not slammed for raising a question, as indicated by the phrase "However I thought..." which is anything but a pronouncement than an incorrect mechanic is correct.

DOne with it

[mcdanrd]

Originally Posted by chseagle

When the 1st number is called, the palm of the hand is supposed to be facing the official with the numer of fingers showing for that number. The second numer is done via palm facing the table with the appropriate fingers.

Huh? You're gonna get carpal tunnel syndrome twisting your hand like that. One hand only. No need to twist so palm is out then in.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by mcdanrd

Huh? You're gonna get carpal tunnel syndrome twisting your hand like that. One hand only. No need to twist so palm is out then in.

Well thanks to an old job, I already have tendinitis of my right wrist.

I do see the idea however being presented about no flipping of the wrist.

[Ignats75]

I don't point at the bench, but as I say the color I point with my open palm and thumb tucked facing the table sideways with whichever hand is to the side that that team is sitting. In louder gyms, it helps the table.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Well thanks to an old job, I already have tendinitis of my right wrist.

Did you handle crowd control at an X-rated movie house??

[constable]

Originally Posted by chseagle

In FIBA, according to what I've read, the numbers allowed are 4-15. When reporting a number after 10, the right hand is closed with the left hand showing 1-5 fingers. For single digits above 5, the mechanic/procedure is the right hand shows 5, the left hands shows the additional numer of fingers needed for 6-10.

However I thought that for NFHS reporting all fouls are actually supposed to be reported one-handed. When the 1st number is called, the palm of the hand is supposed to be facing the official with the numer of fingers showing for that number. The second numer is done via palm facing the table with the appropriate fingers.

Wrong.

How about you let the basketball officials answer the basketball officiating questions.

You can answer questions on what type of pens you prefer to mark the score book with or which brand of scoreboard you prefer.