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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 10:09am
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...After the game an AC from V walks up to me while my partner is next to me and shakes my hand and tells me great game and that I did a great job (then turned his back without even acknowledging my partner). I then proceeded to try to explain something that he had asked about earlier in the game and he starts telling me that all he wanted was a fair game and that I did a great job. I said thank you. He then proceeded to tell me that they had the same issues last week at the other school but I wasn't there so I was "cool" and told me good job again....
1) Why are you engaging in conversation with a coach after a game?

2) Why are you engaging in conversation with a coach after he just disrespected your partner?
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 01:26pm
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1) Why are you engaging in conversation with a coach after a game?

2) Why are you engaging in conversation with a coach after he just disrespected your partner?
I would add, why engage in a conversation with an assistant coach?
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 03:18pm
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I would add, why engage in a conversation with an assistant coach?
It's after the game. There's no need to snub someone just because s/he's the assistant coach. That person will likely be a head coach someday.

And, while the ***'t coach gets less leeway on "complaining" during the game, I'll still talk to them occassionally if they are polite, I have time, it's not taking away from my other duties, etc.

(In the particular play being discussed, I agree that no conversation with anyone should have taken place.)
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 03:42pm
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It's after the game. There's no need to snub someone just because s/he's the assistant coach. That person will likely be a head coach someday.
In Iowa, both the boys' association and girls' union discourage us from participating in conversations with assistant coaches. I'm not sure why, as you pointed out, those individuals will likely be head coaches some day.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 03:19pm
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1) Why are you engaging in conversation with a coach after a game?

2) Why are you engaging in conversation with a coach after he just disrespected your partner?
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I would add, why engage in a conversation with an assistant coach?
Once the game is over coaches, assistant or head, don't exist to me. They are just another face in the crowd.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 03:24pm
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I would add, why engage in a conversation with an assistant coach?
Thanks for the responses on the two calls I made.

As for the after game situation:

This was in a gym that didn't provide a room for us and my bag was under the scorer's table so I was stuck on the court for a few extra minutes. The coach walked up to me and stuck his hand out to shake my hand, i'm not going to just ignore him. Also, I didn't chime in on what he was saying, I just said something along the lines of "ok, coach, thanks." I don't think by any means did i disservice or disrespect my partner. I just felt uneasy that the coach was saying those things.

As far as doing V in my first year back, in Louisiana, al you have to do is officiate 10 sub varsity level games with an "approved" or "certified" official and they have to sign off on you and you're abilities. Approved and certified are the two higher level officials. That just means you're allowed. I have been evaluated by the assignor and his assistant and the rules expert in our association and now they assign me to smaller to mid size school girls and boys varsity.

I've been fortunate and have done alot of games with some very experienced and very good officials this year so i've learned a bunch every game.

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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 03:20pm
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2) Why are you engaging in conversation with a coach after he just disrespected your partner?
I'm not so sure the OP realized what was happening until after it had occurred.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 03:49pm
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I'm not so sure the OP realized what was happening until after it had occurred.
Based on how I read it, the snub happened, then the OP tried to answer a question.

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...After the game an AC from V walks up to me while my partner is next to me and shakes my hand and tells me great game and that I did a great job (then turned his back without even acknowledging my partner). I then proceeded to try to explain something that he had asked about earlier in the game...
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 05:20pm
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Based on how I read it, the snub happened, then the OP tried to answer a question.
That was the way I read it too, but it wasn't clear that the OP recognized it at that time or when he was reviewing it after the fact. Neither are great but I'm not going to assume he immediately recognized the disrespect and then continued to have a dialog with the coach. I'm just as inclined to believe he wasn't really paying attention to what the coach was saying/doing until afterwards.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 06:33pm
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That was the way I read it too, but it wasn't clear that the OP recognized it at that time or when he was reviewing it after the fact. Neither are great but I'm not going to assume he immediately recognized the disrespect and then continued to have a dialog with the coach. I'm just as inclined to believe he wasn't really paying attention to what the coach was saying/doing until afterwards.
Exactly. My response to the coach when he had the same issues before was, "i don't know what you're talking about but thank you" and that was the end of it. I then realized later after i put all the pieces together what he was saying.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 06:38pm
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I have a question.

How did you see the "questionable" travel you partner called as trail across the paint from your location?

Okay, two questions:

How do you know his violation on the shooting team was questionable?
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 11:20pm
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I have a question.

How did you see the "questionable" travel you partner called as trail across the paint from your location?

Okay, two questions:

How do you know his violation on the shooting team was questionable?
I saw the "travel" because I was starting moving ball side when it happened because he had a wide open layup and a defender coming down the lane to defend it so I moved to try to be in position for any potential call.

For the violation, he called it on a player that I was responsible for.
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