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Old Sat Jan 23, 2010, 07:33pm
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I wasn't sitting at the table when this happened. I couldn't get their attention before they tossed the ball - the gym was kind of loud for a JV game - so I went to the table. I got the girl at the table to hit the horn at the next dead ball and fixed it. I just didn't want to see them mess up this badly.

The guy on the book said, "Why did you stop the clock? He has no damn right to tell you to stop it." This guy was a jerk all night and I found out he is the assigner for the table crews in Las Vegas.
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Old Sun Jan 24, 2010, 01:37am
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I wasn't sitting at the table when this happened. I couldn't get their attention before they tossed the ball - the gym was kind of loud for a JV game - so I went to the table. I got the girl at the table to hit the horn at the next dead ball and fixed it. I just didn't want to see them mess up this badly.

The guy on the book said, "Why did you stop the clock? He has no damn right to tell you to stop it." This guy was a jerk all night and I found out he is the assigner for the table crews in Las Vegas.
I would have done just as you did. My main reason is that I have an interest in my assigned game starting on time.

Hopefully, you had them set the clock to 4:00 minutes, not say 3:47, despite however much time had been played so far, as long as it was less than a minute. That's what the Case Book 5.7.3 states.

The guy at the scorer's table can stick it. He obviously isn't doing his job properly, if he can't get his crew to put the correct time on the clock. As you know, up here we don't have a scorer/timer association or an assignor for them. We simply get whoever the home school provides.
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Old Mon Jan 25, 2010, 02:53pm
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The guy at the scorer's table can stick it. He obviously isn't doing his job properly, if he can't get his crew to put the correct time on the clock. As you know, up here we don't have a scorer/timer association or an assignor for them. We simply get whoever the home school provides.
Yeah, even our head guy - decked out in a UFC sweatshirt - said this guy is known for being a jerk on the table. I have worked games with him on the table before, but I didn't realize he had a reputation like this.
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Old Mon Jan 25, 2010, 03:11pm
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I wasn't sitting at the table when this happened. I couldn't get their attention before they tossed the ball - the gym was kind of loud for a JV game - so I went to the table. I got the girl at the table to hit the horn at the next dead ball and fixed it. I just didn't want to see them mess up this badly.

The guy on the book said, "Why did you stop the clock? He has no damn right to tell you to stop it." This guy was a jerk all night and I found out he is the assigner for the table crews in Las Vegas.
Do the table crews get evaluated then if they are assigned?
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Old Mon Jan 25, 2010, 03:57pm
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Do the table crews get evaluated then if they are assigned?
I don't know, but come on. I don't want to offend, but how hard is their job?
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Old Mon Jan 25, 2010, 03:58pm
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I don't know, but come on. I don't want to offend, but how hard is their job?
Aside from knowing how much time to put on the clock for an overtime period?
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Old Mon Jan 25, 2010, 04:07pm
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I don't know, but come on. I don't want to offend, but how hard is their job?
I've done both the book and the clock. I know when I did it I was more diligent than others. There are definitely things can differentiate the good, the bad, and the mediorce.

Don't tell me you have never noticed good table crews and bad table crews.
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Old Mon Jan 25, 2010, 05:08pm
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I've done both the book and the clock. I know when I did it I was more diligent than others. There are definitely things can differentiate the good, the bad, and the mediorce.

Don't tell me you have never noticed good table crews and bad table crews.
Dude, I worked in the DC area; we had table crews that were a step above me keeping track of everything while officiating. I guess I was trying to say it is different than being on the court.

You want to come out here and work the table?
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Old Mon Jan 25, 2010, 04:37pm
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I don't know, but come on. I don't want to offend, but how hard is their job?
As I see it, it depends on the experience & age of the table crew.

Like I've mentioned before, unfortunately, for the Sub-V games the scorebook only wants to do running score, player points, fouls, & timeouts. Although they are also supposed to keep track of the AP, they do not. Then again those doing Sub-V games, are still students, not adults, & they don't take their duties/responsibilities seriously. Basically, if I wasn't doing scoreboard/timer the table would be in a bigger mess for those games.
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