Should there have been a whistle?

[Mr. Ref]

I think you and your brother have too much time on your hands.....

[Adam]

Looks to me like C may have been straightlined by a white player on this one. I agree with Rocky, this is one I'd like to get from C, but a double whistle would be good on this one.

As lead, it's a good one to get wide on to try to get as close to a 90 degree angle as possible on the space between them.

[jeschmit]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Looks to me like C may have been straightlined by a white player on this one. I agree with Rocky, this is one I'd like to get from C, but a double whistle would be good on this one.

As lead, it's a good one to get wide on to try to get as close to a 90 degree angle as possible on the space between them.

I got it paused right as the contact happens, and I dont think that C was straightlined at the point of contact. At least not to the point as to where he cant get a good enough look on the play to make a PC call. I would like the C to come out and get this one, but the L should have a late/double whistle on this. I can see how the L might be guessing a little bit, especially if they are at close-down position at the time of contact.

Bottom line, there were bodies on the floor due to a crash happening from contact. We probably need to have something there, most likely coming from the C. The L can have a late whistle on this if they didn't like what the C passed on.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jeschmit

I got it paused right as the contact happens, and I dont think that C was straightlined at the point of contact. At least not to the point as to where he cant get a good enough look on the play to make a PC call. I would like the C to come out and get this one, but the L should have a late/double whistle on this. I can see how the L might be guessing a little bit, especially if they are at close-down position at the time of contact.

Bottom line, there were bodies on the floor due to a crash happening from contact. We probably need to have something there, most likely coming from the C. The L can have a late whistle on this if they didn't like what the C passed on.

I agree with you on this particular play, but the way we're taught here is not to have a call just because you have players on the floor due to contact. If the defender had been responsible for this play, a no-call would have been correct. We're told, if you have a no-call and someone's on the floor, be able to explain how they got there.

[jeschmit]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I agree with you on this particular play, but the way we're taught here is not to have a call just because you have players on the floor due to contact. If the defender had been responsible for this play, a no-call would have been correct. We're told, if you have a no-call and someone's on the floor, be able to explain how they got there.

That's how I was taught too. Hence I said there should probably be a whistle on this play. There definitely are times where bodies hit the floor and it was done legally. This case, however, there should be a whistle. We've all missed them before, and that's what this forum is about: learning from it!

[Scratch85]

Since there are differing views on who gets first shot at this call, I'll weigh in too.

In my area we give first shot on this call to L (it originated in his area and happened in his area.) If he doesn't get it C should get it. But I definitely think there should be a whistle on this play. IMO, PC.

Since it is likely that a shot is about to happen, the T is probably closing down and should be preparing to help on rebounding and watching feet for a travel. Maybe even getting the foul if both L and C miss it.

Anyway, thats how we approach it in my little corner of Rome.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jeschmit

I got it paused right as the contact happens, and I dont think that C was straightlined at the point of contact. At least not to the point as to where he cant get a good enough look on the play to make a PC call. I would like the C to come out and get this one, but the L should have a late/double whistle on this. I can see how the L might be guessing a little bit, especially if they are at close-down position at the time of contact.

Bottom line, there were bodies on the floor due to a crash happening from contact. We probably need to have something there, most likely coming from the C. The L can have a late whistle on this if they didn't like what the C passed on.

I'm not thrilled with the C's position on this or what he does with his positioning as the play developed (nothing, really).

When that curl play develops, I would like to see the C step down and get position to look through this contact. A strong C could've called this PC foul with no problems.

I agree that the L could've been a step or two deeper and a step or two wider, as well.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I'm not thrilled with the C's position on this or what he does with his positioning as the play developed (nothing, really).

When that curl play develops, I would like to see the C step down and get position to look through this contact. A strong C could've called this PC foul with no problems.

I agree that the L could've been a step or two deeper and a step or two wider, as well.

I was writing mine as you were posting your's. We saw the same thing.

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by Mr. Ref

I think you and your brother have too much time on your hands.....

LOL....What? That is not something I wanted the reffing community to see!!!