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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 08:19am
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I respectfully beg to differ, Mr. CumquatHead.

Were the techical fouls committed by opponents? Check!!
Did the technical fouls occur at approximately the same time? Check!!
Did the opponents not commit the technical fouls against each other? Check!!(only one of the "T"s was against each other, not both)

Sure sounds to me like it meets the definition of a simultaneous technical foul as per rule 4-19-10.

And there is also nowayinhell it can only be a false double technical foul. Did you forget the original personal foul on the shooter? It's a false double foul comprised of the original personal foul on the shooter followed by the simultaneous technical fouls.

And how do you administer this, you ask? There's no FT's for a simultaneous technical foul and you go to the POI as per rule 10-6PENALTIES SUMMARY 1(d). And in this case the POI is the first FT for the personal foul committed on the shooter as per rule 4-36-2(b). And you shoot the FT's with the players on the lane lines.
Perhaps simultaneous Ts would be appropriate here. It lies in the eye of the beholder. However, if I see a player foul his opponent and then stand over him in a menacing manner, then one of his teammates rushes to his aid and gets in that guy's face, I'm taking those actions in sequence as they very clearly follow one another as cause and effect.

I'll stick with my opinion of the false double Ts, which of course are to be administered after the FTs for the original foul. I didn't forget about that either. I merely went forward with the administration of the Ts in my writing instead of going back and specifying that part as well. I thought that it would be clear from the context.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 08:26am
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Perhaps simultaneous Ts would be appropriate here. It lies in the eye of the beholder.
Can't argue too much with that. Judgment call.

Personally, if the actions are related to each other and the time frame is close, I lump 'em together.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 08:28am
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Can't argue too much with that. Judgment call.

Personally, if the actions are related to each other and the time frame is close, I lump 'em together.
Sure simplifies things and saves administering a bunch of FTs!
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 08:54am
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Sure simplifies things and saves administering a bunch of FTs!
That's exactly why I recommend it, as long as it can be justified rules-wise.
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