Need Clarification...

[bas2456]

I'm out of town and don't have my books with me.

In my game this morning, I was the lead on a play. A1 shoots a 3. While the ball is in the air, A2 fouls B1 underneath the basket. The ball goes in.

Was I right not to count the basket on this play?

[BktBallRef]

No, you were not.

Only a PC foul causes a shot in flight to become dead.

[26 Year Gap]

I had this play last night. I counted the 3 and then awarded the other team the ball at the spot...which was wrong. I should have given them the run of the end line which they would have had if there had been no foul.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I had this play last night. I counted the 3 and then awarded the other team the ball at the spot...which was wrong. I should have given them the run of the end line which they would have had if there had been no foul.

So summarizing what I should have done...

Count the basket, report the foul, award the ball to Team B with the ability to run the endline. Right?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bas2456

So summarizing what I should have done...

Count the basket, report the foul, award the ball to Team B with the ability to run the endline. Right?

Correct, unless bonus FTs should be awarded.

[bas2456]

Thanks for the help.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bas2456

So summarizing what I should have done...

Count the basket, report the foul, award the ball to Team B with the ability to run the endline. Right?

Correct in your case.

Note that if A2's foul had been nearer a sideline, then the throw-in spot would be at the sideline (and not running the end-line)

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Correct in your case.

Note that if A2's foul had been nearer a sideline, then the throw-in spot would be at the sideline (and not running the end-line)

In my play, the foul occurred in the paint. Shooter's teammate shoved opponent so opponent was under the rim and would have had no chance at a rebound had the attempt been unsuccessful. I rewarded, in a sense, the shooting team as their opponents were not in the bonus.

[representing]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I had this play last night. I counted the 3 and then awarded the other team the ball at the spot...which was wrong. I should have given them the run of the end line which they would have had if there had been no foul.

Could you reference this to the rulebook? I'm just wondering why you would allow the team to run the end line if they were fouled before a made basket. I would understand if it would have been after the basket was made and a foul occurred to allow the team to run the end line, but can't understand why you would allow the team to run if the basket wasn't even made yet before the foul occurred.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by representing

Could you reference this to the rulebook? I'm just wondering why you would allow the team to run the end line if they were fouled before a made basket. I would understand if it would have been after the basket was made and a foul occurred to allow the team to run the end line, but can't understand why you would allow the team to run if the basket wasn't even made yet before the foul occurred.

Because the goal being successful is the final action which happens on the play. The ball does not become dead on the foul as there is a try in flight, so when the try goes through the basket, that makes the ball dead and ends the play.

Basically, if a team gets scored on, and somehow also receives the ball for a throw-in which would be on the end line, then the team may run.

It's straight out of the Case Book:

7.5.7 SITUATION E: While A1's three-point field-goal attempt is in flight, A3
fouls B1 (B is not in the bonus) near the bottom block area. The three-point field
goal attempt is successful. RULING: Score the three-point goal for A1. Team B
will be permitted to run the end line on the ensuing throw-in. (6-7-7 Exception 2)

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Because the goal being successful is the final action which happens on the play. The ball does not become dead on the foul as there is a try in flight, so when the try goes through the basket, that makes the ball dead and ends the play.

Basically, if a team gets scored on, and somehow also receives the ball for a throw-in which would be on the end line, then the team may run.

It's straight out of the Case Book:

7.5.7 SITUATION E: While A1's three-point field-goal attempt is in flight, A3
fouls B1 (B is not in the bonus) near the bottom block area. The three-point field
goal attempt is successful. RULING: Score the three-point goal for A1. Team B
will be permitted to run the end line on the ensuing throw-in. (6-7-7 Exception 2)

Right result, wrong reason. It is not about what is the final action. If they are fouled (personal) after the try is successful but before they complete the throwin, they still get to run the endline (assuming the throwin spot is on the endline).

It is about not losing the right to run the endline as a result of the other team committing an infraction when the subsequent throwin remains on the endline.