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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 03:13pm
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"I'll just tag on to what most have concluded here.............I don't feel he's an idiot, he is an idiot. Nothing you can tell me about this man excuses the behavior he demonstrated on this video. Additionally, you mention that this modus operandi apparently doesn't bother him. That only solidifies his idiot stature.

It's all about him. Pitiful, and you buy into this nonsense."

I can tell you, I do buy into the nonsense. And so does the rest of the students, prospective students, the administration, and most importantly - donors; which is what DeLaSalle owns its existence to. There is no question that in this instance, the coach went too far. His penalty was to be ejected out of the game and be suspended for the next (have no idea how that turned out). However, DeLaSalle basketball and sports is a HUGE deal to DeLaSalle students, and the surrounding community. It's proven when 1,000 people pile into to a see basketball game for a school that only has 500 students. This is one example of a coach going too far, but its an underlying expression of passion that everyone generally buys into.

This can't be compared to murder, or physical violence, or even the classroom. If we followed the logic of classroom expectations being transposed into school events, then we would all be raising our hand to talk? I get the point, but it's not black and white.

Obviously, we can argue about philosophical differences all day, but as I said; As an official,I enjoy games where I'm getting a little "action" from coaches. Its one (of many) indicators that I'm officiating a game where people care, want to do well. For me, its only frustrating when A) coaches pass blame game outcome on the officials B) they don't understand the rules C) the players really are mimicking the coach (which I penalize Immediately) D) There is anything that I feel might lead to, include, or suggest physical abuse.... ok this list could continue on, but you get the point.

I think the coach crossed part D on the first technical and should have been tossed right away. Otherwise, coaches can jump up and down, whine, yell, and cry to the moon all they want.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 03:24pm
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I can tell you, I do buy into the nonsense. And so does the rest of the students, prospective students, the administration, and most importantly - donors; which is what DeLaSalle owns its existence to. There is no question that in this instance, the coach went too far. His penalty was to be ejected out of the game and be suspended for the next (have no idea how that turned out). However, DeLaSalle basketball and sports is a HUGE deal to DeLaSalle students, and the surrounding community. It's proven when 1,000 people pile into to a see basketball game for a school that only has 500 students. This is one example of a coach going too far, but its an underlying expression of passion that everyone generally buys into.
Like I said, the Bobby Knight of MN hs basketball. And apparently, the school is willing to bend over for him by scheduling a meaningless post season game to help him serve his suspension in a manner that suits him.

That sort of outburst was completely unprofessional. He may be good at coaching, but I'd no sooner want him coaching my son than Bobby Knight.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 03:32pm
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Like I said, the Bobby Knight of MN hs basketball. And apparently, the school is willing to bend over for him by scheduling a meaningless post season game to help him serve his suspension in a manner that suits him.

That sort of outburst was completely unprofessional. He may be good at coaching, but I'd no sooner want him coaching my son than Bobby Knight.
Excellent point Snaqs, I have a young son who plays and certainly wouldn't want him 'leading' my kid.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 03:30pm
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"I'll just tag on to what most have concluded here.............I don't feel he's an idiot, he is an idiot. Nothing you can tell me about this man excuses the behavior he demonstrated on this video. Additionally, you mention that this modus operandi apparently doesn't bother him. That only solidifies his idiot stature.

It's all about him. Pitiful, and you buy into this nonsense."

I can tell you, I do buy into the nonsense. And so does the rest of the students, prospective students, the administration, and most importantly - donors; which is what DeLaSalle owns its existence to. There is no question that in this instance, the coach went too far. His penalty was to be ejected out of the game and be suspended for the next (have no idea how that turned out). However, DeLaSalle basketball and sports is a HUGE deal to DeLaSalle students, and the surrounding community. It's proven when 1,000 people pile into to a see basketball game for a school that only has 500 students. This is one example of a coach going too far, but its an underlying expression of passion that everyone generally buys into.

This can't be compared to murder, or physical violence, or even the classroom. If we followed the logic of classroom expectations being transposed into school events, then we would all be raising our hand to talk? I get the point, but it's not black and white.

Obviously, we can argue about philosophical differences all day, but as I said; As an official,I enjoy games where I'm getting a little "action" from coaches. Its one (of many) indicators that I'm officiating a game where people care, want to do well. For me, its only frustrating when A) coaches pass blame game outcome on the officials B) they don't understand the rules C) the players really are mimicking the coach (which I penalize Immediately) D) There is anything that I feel might lead to, include, or suggest physical abuse.... ok this list could continue on, but you get the point.

I think the coach crossed part D on the first technical and should have been tossed right away. Otherwise, coaches can jump up and down, whine, yell, and cry to the moon all they want.
I went to a private, Catholic, all boys school probably similar to this school.

I can look back on all my coaches who I respect to this day and not once did they throw a childish tantrum as this 'coach' did. If you describe this as passion, I fear for the man's spouse! Just silly theatrics really, and in my area he'd be long gone as a coach.
I realize it's just a thirty second clip, but it's very clownish and would really get old to all involved.

Has he considered community theater?
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 04:47pm
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Obviously, we can argue about philosophical differences all day, but as I said; As an official,I enjoy games where I'm getting a little "action" from coaches. .
The things this coach does in the video go so far beyond a "little action" that it makes your stance seem quite ridiculous.
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