Time-out Debacle

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It's not, "I've got a foul on white thirty-two for a hold. Blue ball out of bounds on the side". Instead it should be, ""White. Thirty-two. Hold. Possession blue."

My first ever training session in my association.....Practicing calling fouls.

Me, "I've got, blue, 5, hold........"

Trainer - "I've got? I've got? You've got nothing!" Lesson learned, day one!

Originally Posted by BillyMac

As tjones1 posted, it's not, ""Full timeout requested by white coach granted." Instead it should be, "White Time. Coach. Thirty. Start the clock."

I use - "30 second timeout. Blue, coach. Start the clock." Same difference.

PS - And yes, Billy, I remember Name That Tune!

[Red_Killian]

We just looked this up in the Official's Manual about 2 weeks ago. The correct TO reporting procedure is:

1. give the appropriate signal for the type of TO (30 or 60 second)
2. verbally indicate team color
3. verbally and visually give the player number or head coach
4. verbally and visually direct the timer to begin the TO period

I used to do 2, 3, 1, 4 but have now been retrained and am following the manual.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Me, "I've got, blue, 5, hold........"

I've actually been told by some evaluators to not even verbalize what the foul is. If you go with the "by the book" calls, a coach can start arguing "that's not a hold!", etc., etc.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

I've actually been told by some evaluators to not even verbalize what the foul is. If you go with the "by the book" calls, a coach can start arguing "that's not a hold!", etc., etc.

I'm trying to get out of this habit; it's annoying me.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

I've actually been told by some evaluators to not even verbalize what the foul is. If you go with the "by the book" calls, a coach can start arguing "that's not a hold!", etc., etc.

If you go "by the book" it says to only verbalize color and number, then visually signal the type of foul.

I tend to verbalize some (can't get out of the habit of saying 'push' and sometimes 'block'), but others (like 'hold' and 'illegal use of the hands') I never say. I don't know why (other than I wouldn't ever say 'illegal use of hands' if I didn't have to).

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

If you go "by the book" it says to only verbalize color and number, then visually signal the type of foul.

I tend to verbalize some (can't get out of the habit of saying 'push' and sometimes 'block'), but others (like 'hold' and 'illegal use of the hands') I never say. I don't know why (other than I wouldn't ever say 'illegal use of hands' if I didn't have to).

Since I've done so many years of clock/book at D-I games, I've picked up a lot of those refs' reporting habits - my signals aren't always the ones in the book, and I'll just describe what happened.

Of course, I haven't reffed a game on the court in many years, so it's a bit moot at this point.