Coach on the court. What is your call?

[CoachCER]

14U boys AAU tournament in the 1st half. Team B is applying a full court press on Team A. Team B traps A1 on the sideline in the backcourt. A1 steps through the trap, and fires a pass downcourt that is caught...by Team B's coach, who is standing about 10' on the court (he is inside the 3-point line).
Call?

[Adam]

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[CoachCER]

You would think so, wouldn't you? I brought this up because of the advantage/disadvantage discussion I read and how it related to violations.

The ball was awarded to Team B on the sideline. The explanation given was that "A1 was going to throw the ball away anyway, so Team B did not gain an advantage by the coach being on the court. A1 should have realized he was not passing to a teammate. If Coach B was between A1 and a teammate, I would call a technical on him."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by CoachCER

You would think so, wouldn't you? I brought this up because of the advantage/disadvantage discussion I read and how it related to violations.

The ball was awarded to Team B on the sideline. The explanation given was that "A1 was going to throw the ball away anyway, so Team B did not gain an advantage by the coach being on the court. A1 should have realized he was not passing to a teammate. If Coach B was between A1 and a teammate, I would call a technical on him."

A/D does not apply to technical fouls. I'm editing as I write this, so you're not getting my first thoughts.

A coach 10 feet on the court is going to get at least a warning from me (and only one). A coach 10 feet on the court who catches a live ball is going to get a seat belt and find himself half way to Disqualified.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

A/D does not apply to technical fouls. I'm editing as I write this, so you're not getting my first thoughts.

A coach 10 feet on the court is going to get at least a warning from me (and only one). A coach 10 feet on the court who catches a live ball is going to get a seat belt and find himself half way to Disqualified.

Gee, you're getting soft in your old age Snaq!

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

A/D does not apply to technical fouls. I'm editing as I write this, so you're not getting my first thoughts.

A coach 10 feet on the court is going to get at least a warning from me (and only one). A coach 10 feet on the court who catches a live ball is going to get a seat belt and find himself half way to Disqualified.

He will probably find himself all the way disqualified if I am the calling official.

Hmmm... Coming 10 feet onto the court and catching a live ball which was passed by the opposing team--Is this unacceptable behavior?

[Back In The Saddle]

Yes, it is unacceptable behavior. But I don't think it is so far over the line that it warrants immediate ejection.

As always, just my $0.02.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by CoachCER

The ball was awarded to Team B on the sideline. The explanation given was that "A1 was going to throw the ball away anyway, so Team B did not gain an advantage by the coach being on the court. A1 should have realized he was not passing to a teammate. If Coach B was between A1 and a teammate, I would call a technical on him."

That ties for the stoopidest call ever made.

[muxbule]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That ties for the stoopidest call ever made.

I agree but could you reveal what it is tied with. I assume it must be a doozy because this one is really stupid.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by muxbule

I agree but could you reveal what it is tied with. I assume it must be a doozy because this one is really stupid.

T on the home team for a mom coming onto the court to check on her injured child?

[CoachCER]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That ties for the stoopidest call ever made.

I agree. I was Coach A, and ended up with a "T" before all was said and done. I initially couldn't get any explanation other than "your player was going to throw it away anyway."
After the T, the ref who made the call did give me the better explanation, but I was still not pleased. He let me say my piece on A/D, and did say he knew where I was coming from, but didn't want to punish the other coach for making an "innocent" mistake. I pointed out that an innocent mistake is one foot on the court, not out 10' on the court.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by CoachCER

After the T, the ref who made the call did give me the better explanation, but I was still not pleased.

There is no better explanation for that one.

Advantage/disadvantage has got nothing to do with interfering with play. You just don't do it, deliberately or accidentally.

Unfortunately, some officials can always find an excuse not to call a warranted and deserved technical foul, no matter what.

[bbcoach7]

Originally Posted by CoachCER

You would think so, wouldn't you? I brought this up because of the advantage/disadvantage discussion I read and how it related to violations.

The ball was awarded to Team B on the sideline. The explanation given was that "A1 was going to throw the ball away anyway, so Team B did not gain an advantage by the coach being on the court. A1 should have realized he was not passing to a teammate. If Coach B was between A1 and a teammate, I would call a technical on him."

Awarded to Team B? Yeah that's the kind of bizzare, twisted, unjustified by a rule book, self will imposed ruling, that creates howler monkeys out of otherwise well behaved coaches. Not that monkeys howling is ever justified, just to point out this is how you create one out of nothing.

[CoachCER]

Originally Posted by bbcoach7

Awarded to Team B? Yeah that's the kind of bizzare, twisted, unjustified by a rule book, self will imposed ruling, that creates howler monkeys out of otherwise well behaved coaches. Not that monkeys howling is ever justified, just to point out this is how you create one out of nothing.

I have coached over 700 games at different levels, and have around 7 total technicals. That was one of them. And I would do it again. I.just.could.not.accept.that.logic.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

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What he said.........