Signaling of Bonus

[mj]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Speaking of APs, what's the best AP you've seen?

What's the worse AP you've seen?

Wow.

Just wow...

[Adam]

Best: Dancing girls. It's best when they use the cast of Howie Mandel's game show.

Worst: A pencil. I wish I was kidding.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Worst: A pencil. I wish I was kidding.

I know that you're not kidding. Been there. Done that.

[TimTaylor]

Most all of our schools have provision on the scoreboard to indicate actual number of team fouls - I much prefer that to a simple bonus light. Even with either the bonus light or number of team fouls displayed, the reporting official should still look to the official scorekeeper for confirmation, which they are supposed to give per 2-11-10. I like to be proactive on bonus situations, so I usually ask the scorekeeper to let us know when each team hits 6 team fouls.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

Most all of our schools have provision on the scoreboard to indicate actual number of team fouls - I much prefer that to a simple bonus light. Even with either the bonus light or number of team fouls displayed, the reporting official should still look to the official scorekeeper for confirmation, which they are supposed to give per 2-11-10. I like to be proactive on bonus situations, so I usually ask the scorekeeper to let us know when each team hits 6 team fouls.

The big question is then: how many times does the official scorer actually signal the bonus without being asked?

Another question for everyone, do you prefer the player fouls being shown on the scoreboard, or should this just be up to the official book to keep track?

I rotate on the JV & C-Squad games on showing the player fouls on the scoreboard. Of course, I always keep track of the team fouls on the scoreboard.

When I was working scoreboard at 4A Regionals last February, we only kept track of the team fouls. It was up to the book to keep track of the player fouls.

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by chseagle

The big question is then: how many times does the official scorer actually signal the bonus without being asked?

It should happen everytime the bonus is in effect. I only ask when I have an "inkling" that we are at 7 or 10.

Originally Posted by chseagle

Another question for everyone, do you prefer the player fouls being shown on the scoreboard, or should this just be up to the official book to keep track?

No preference. I won't look up to see. If the teams / fans want it, that's good for them.

Originally Posted by chseagle

It was up to the book to keep track of the player fouls.

It always is. In fact, it's also always up to the book to keep track of team fouls. The only "official" part of the scoreboard is the time, provided it was designated the official timepiece by the referee. This is why the scoreboard operator is the "timer" and the person keeping the book is the "scorer."

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by sseltser

It should happen everytime the bonus is in effect. I only ask when I have an "inkling" that we are at 7 or 10.

I remember from when I was doing book, even if I was the visitors' scorebook, I'd always signal when bonus was in effect. I still do signal, even though not doing book.

Originally Posted by sseltser

No preference. I won't look up to see. If the teams / fans want it, that's good for them.

My reasoning for asking about the player fouls on the board, is basically as a second record (as the scoreboard controls my alma mater uses has memory built in to keep track of the player fouls), & also a way for the coach to keep track without having to ask the book all the time.

Originally Posted by sseltser

It always is. In fact, it's also always up to the book to keep track of team fouls. The only "official" part of the scoreboard is the time, provided it was designated the official timepiece by the referee. This is why the scoreboard operator is the "timer" and the person keeping the book is the "scorer."

Maybe I'll try that next time I do a game. Do nothing but the time on the scoreboard & let the book(s) get asked all the time about the score & the fouls.

Especially since, technically, all a timer has to do is keep track/tabs on the time in the game. Nowhere is it listed that the timer has to keep track of the score or fouls.

[truerookie]

[QUOTE=chseagle;646323]The big question is then: how many times does the official scorer actually signal the bonus without being asked?

Another question for everyone, do you prefer the player fouls being shown on the scoreboard, or should this just be up to the official book to keep track?

Not my duties to track individuals fouls, So, I will not be concerned if they do or not.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by chseagle

The big question is then: how many times does the official scorer actually signal the bonus without being asked?

Another question for everyone, do you prefer the player fouls being shown on the scoreboard, or should this just be up to the official book to keep track?

I rotate on the JV & C-Squad games on showing the player fouls on the scoreboard. Of course, I always keep track of the team fouls on the scoreboard.

When I was working scoreboard at 4A Regionals last February, we only kept track of the team fouls. It was up to the book to keep track of the player fouls.

Originally Posted by truerookie

Not my duties to track individuals fouls, So, I will not be concerned if they do or not.

I was asking about the player fouls on the board, as I've seen it done in the past where the officials have noticed that the board lists a player with 5 fouls before the book says anything. So it can help expedite a game.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Speaking of APs, what's the best AP you've seen?

Any

What's the worse AP you've seen?

As long as there is one, it doesn't effin matter.

Originally Posted by chseagle

The big question is then: how many times does the official scorer actually signal the bonus without being asked?

14

Another question for everyone, do you prefer the player fouls being shown on the scoreboard, or should this just be up to the official book to keep track?

No.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

Most all of our schools have provision on the scoreboard to indicate actual number of team fouls - I much prefer that to a simple bonus light. Even with either the bonus light or number of team fouls displayed, the reporting official should still look to the official scorekeeper for confirmation, which they are supposed to give per 2-11-10. I like to be proactive on bonus situations, so I usually ask the scorekeeper to let us know when each team hits 6 team fouls.

Rule 2-11-10: Signal in each half when a player commits a common foul beginning with his/her team’s seventh & 10th foul.

Rule 2-11-5: Record the personal & technical fouls called on each player & notify an official immediately when the fifth foul (personal & technical) is charged to any player, the second technical foul is charged to any team member, bench personnel, or directly to the head coach, or the third technical foul is charged to the head coach.

Actually both 2-11-5 & 2-11-10 state that the scorer needs to be in communication with the officials concerning fouls. Though I've seen it where the officials have had to ask the scorer about the foul situation, instead of the scorer letting the officials know of a person's 5th personal, or a team's 7th or 10th foul.

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Best: Dancing girls. It's best when they use the cast of Howie Mandel's game show.

Worst: A pencil. I wish I was kidding.

Worst: besides none, a soda bottle - cap points towards basket of next AP throwin.