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View Poll Results: Do you, personally, signal a successful 3-point goal from Lead in 2-person?
Rarely/never 15 35.71%
Depends on whether or not I know my partner will see my attempt signal 11 26.19%
Always 16 38.10%
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Old Tue Jan 08, 2008, 12:21am
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Signaling Successful 3-Point Goal From Lead (2-Person)

After some local observation, and some discussion of misconceptions about certain mechanics at tonight's association meeting, I'm just curious.
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Old Tue Jan 08, 2008, 12:28am
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I don't mirror my partner in 2-man, but if the try comes from my area and I indicate the 3, I also score it.
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You neglected one more option in your poll: Only if the T does not give it.
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To clarify:

The poll question concerns the only time a Lead is to signal a successful 3-point goal, which is when the try originates in their area. (This does not concern the possibility of a Lead signaling a 3-point attempt in fast transition with the Trail nowhere near covering the play.)
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Old Tue Jan 08, 2008, 01:05am
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I don't mirror my partner in 2-man, but if the try comes from my area and I indicate the 3, I also score it.
What he said.


I am having some problems understanding where the confusion is...but maybe it's just me.
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Old Tue Jan 08, 2008, 01:20am
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What he said.


I am having some problems understanding where the confusion is...but maybe it's just me.
Here the L will mark the 3 if it comes from his area, but the T is expected to score it.
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Old Tue Jan 08, 2008, 01:25am
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Here the L will mark the 3 if it comes from his area, but the T is expected to score it.
Ahhh, thanks BITS.

So it's basically a check your local listings question.

Here we just follow the manual - seems to work.
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The mechanic we always used was the Lead only signaled a 3 point attempt when it came from their area. Then they would signal it good if it came from their area as well. Only the Trail mirrors the good 3 point shot, and never mirrors the attempt. Not much different than what you do in 3 person.

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Ahhh, thanks BITS.

So it's basically a check your local listings question.

Here we just follow the manual - seems to work.
Huh? I thought you Illinois folks had your own manual?
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Old Tue Jan 08, 2008, 01:29am
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The mechanic we always used was the Lead only signaled a 3 point attempt when it came from their area. Then they would signal it good if it came from their area as well. Only the Trail mirrors the good 3 point shot, and never mirrors the attempt. Not much different than what you do in 3 person. Peace
Same here in Connecticut Two-Man, with one additional mechanic: Point to floor for two-point field goal try (near three point line).
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Old Tue Jan 08, 2008, 01:39am
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Huh? I thought you Illinois folks had your own manual?
Shhhhhhh, no one is suppose to know.
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The mechanic we always used was the Lead only signaled a 3 point attempt when it came from their area. Then they would signal it good if it came from their area as well. Only the Trail mirrors the good 3 point shot, and never mirrors the attempt. Not much different than what you do in 3 person.

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RUT:

Did you update the Bucks record against SEC in bowl games after tonight's game.

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Old Tue Jan 08, 2008, 02:55am
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RUT:

Did you update the Bucks record against SEC in bowl games after tonight's game.

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I corrected the record just for you Mark. I was so mad I did not want to rub it in earlier.

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Old Tue Jan 08, 2008, 04:04am
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The proper mechanic is if lead marks it they score it and then trail mirrors the score.
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Correct fiba mechanics for this is that if the shot comes from the leads area is that the lead shows "3-point attempt", and holds that signal until he can confirm the trail has mirrored the signal. He must how ever still cover the rebounding and therefore most of the times when this happen you see the lead holding the signal until the ball has either rebounded or entered the basket (if the ball enters he should look at his partner to confirm 3 points have been awarded.
(From the Fiba 2-referee manual - shooting situations- three point attempts [6.3])
The reason the lead won't score the basket (I think, I have no quotes on this) is becuse the trail is responsible for the flight of the ball and therefore he is the logical choice when it comes to scoring the basket (since he sees when and if it is good).
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