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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 12:40pm
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I honestly do not understand why there are stupid rules like this regarding the uniform. The uniform does not give anyone an advantage or disadvantage, whether the numbers are too big, in the wrong spot, etc.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 12:49pm
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Illinois enforcing uniform rules? The dickens you say!!!!

I'm sure there is one mechanics nit-picker who is not happy as he is not a nit-picker when it comes to uniform rule enforcement.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 02:42pm
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I honestly do not understand why there are stupid rules like this regarding the uniform. The uniform does not give anyone an advantage or disadvantage, whether the numbers are too big, in the wrong spot, etc.
You've obviously never officiated in a youth, or mens, recreation game where the players are all wearing slightly different "uniforms", often, no more than T-shirts with handwritten numbers on them, or numbers "ironed" into the fabric. Sometimes on the front only, sometimes on the back only. Small numbers. Numbers that don't stand out, colorwise. Nothing quite like asking a six foot, seven inch, 275 pound, ex-football player, who is already upset with the foul that you just called on him, to please turn around so that you can see his number. Thank God the NFHS cares about the uniforms worn in my high school games. It makes my job a lot easier.
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Old Fri Dec 25, 2009, 11:53pm
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You've obviously never officiated in a youth, or mens, recreation game where the players are all wearing slightly different "uniforms", often, no more than T-shirts with handwritten numbers on them, or numbers "ironed" into the fabric.
And that's not what this thread is about. It's about interscholastic athletic events sanctioned by a state association. Rec rules are a problem for the recreation dept.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2009, 12:19am
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And that's not what this thread is about. It's about interscholastic athletic events sanctioned by a state association.
Which is my point exactly. Without the NFHS uniform rules, interscholastic games would be just like recreation league games. There are reasons for uniform rules, one of which is to make numbers on the jerseys easily visible to officials. Sure, some NFHS rules seem to be set up by the "fashion police", but most of these rules are there for a reason, quite often a good reason.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2009, 03:43pm
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Which is my point exactly. Without the NFHS uniform rules, interscholastic games would be just like recreation league games. There are reasons for uniform rules, one of which is to make numbers on the jerseys easily visible to officials. Sure, some NFHS rules seem to be set up by the "fashion police", but most of these rules are there for a reason, quite often a good reason.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2009, 12:55am
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You've obviously never officiated in a youth, or mens, recreation game where the players are all wearing slightly different "uniforms", often, no more than T-shirts with handwritten numbers on them, or numbers "ironed" into the fabric. Sometimes on the front only, sometimes on the back only. Small numbers. Numbers that don't stand out, colorwise. Nothing quite like asking a six foot, seven inch, 275 pound, ex-football player, who is already upset with the foul that you just called on him, to please turn around so that you can see his number. Thank God the NFHS cares about the uniforms worn in my high school games. It makes my job a lot easier.
Uh, yes I do officiate youth basketball games. I understand what you're saying, and I agree. But what I meant strictly was like the size of the numbers, where they are located, etc. As long as there is a number on the front and a number on the back, and either team has distinguishing colors from each other, I'm good. i don't care about logos, names, school names, color designs, etc.
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Uh, yes I do officiate youth basketball games. I understand what you're saying, and I agree. But what I meant strictly was like the size of the numbers, where they are located, etc. As long as there is a number on the front and a number on the back, and either team has distinguishing colors from each other, I'm good. i don't care about logos, names, school names, color designs, etc.
You're not getting what BillyMac is telling you.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2009, 12:00pm
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i don't care about logos, names, school names, color designs, etc.
You would if they didn't have the rules.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2009, 12:14pm
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Uh, yes I do officiate youth basketball games. I understand what you're saying, and I agree. But what I meant strictly was like the size of the numbers, where they are located, etc. As long as there is a number on the front and a number on the back, and either team has distinguishing colors from each other, I'm good. i don't care about logos, names, school names, color designs, etc.
Consider the ten second free throw rule. You rarely see a player even approach ten seconds, even more rarely does a player actually reach ten seconds, and you never see it called (maybe a couple of officials on this board have ever called it). Some might think the rule isn't necessary based on that, but if it was removed, coaches would use free throws for unlimited timeout opportunities.

The same goes for the uniform requirements. Without the standards for number sizes and locations, there would be plenty of scholistic uniforms that were nearly impossible to read and understand. All it would take is some AD somewhere to let her husband in the drama department design their basketball uniforms.
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Old Sat Dec 26, 2009, 01:43pm
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Uh, yes I do officiate youth basketball games. I understand what you're saying, and I agree. But what I meant strictly was like the size of the numbers, where they are located, etc. As long as there is a number on the front and a number on the back, and either team has distinguishing colors from each other, I'm good. i don't care about logos, names, school names, color designs, etc.
Whether we agree with the uniform rules or not, the school purchased the uniforms. They could just as easily have purchased legal uniforms. But they didn't. A little accountability this season should go a long way toward voluntary compliance next season.
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