Similar to Welpe's situation

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I have learned more from this site about basketball rules than from anywhere else. I have been here for years and I absorb a ton of useful info. Only recently, when I am very sure of my answer, will I try and give advice. It helps no one when you guess and guess wrong.

Words of wisdom imhkgo.......

None of us should ever stop trying to learn. And you learn by simply reading the threads posted here or asking questions and then listening to and comprehending the responses. And whether that response came from the rawest rookie or not, you should still evaluate it to see if you can maybe find a nugget of gold amongst the doo-doo. And it's certainly not a bad idea before responding to take the time to confirm that your response is correct by using one of the accepted sources of knowledge...the rule book, case book, officiating manuals and any official handouts available. You'll learn more by looking the answer up than by being constantly corrected for screwing up yet another response.

Continually posting incorrect answers doesn't do that poster or anybody reading his posts any good at all.


You are wise beyond your years, Smitty....

[Adam]

I have a request. Please stop referring to POI as part of the penalty for personal fouls. The penalty is a throwin at the disignated OOB spot nearest the foul (except for double fouls, shooting fouls, and common fouls committed when the bonus is in effect.) POI (Point of interruption) is a completely different animal.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Continually posting incorrect answers doesn't do that poster or anybody reading his posts any good at all.

Hey...the KING has spoken once again!

It's always good to hear from you JR! I miss reading your posts here... I hope you post more often than you have been lately.

Anyway, I agree a person should be careful in posting answers...but, I surely wouldn't want a person to stop posting QUESTIONS about situations, etc.

This representing dude has some things to learn...but, you have to give him some credit...he ain't afraid to ask, post, interact, or even to show his ignorance, so that others may learn.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

1) I miss reading your posts here.

2) This representing dude has some things to learn.

1) Shut up.

Didya miss that too, Dude-ee?

2) We all have some things to learn. Representing ain't unique when it comes to that. Smitty, you and the others are just trying to teach him how to learn. Hopefully he'll realize that.

[Adam]

He said dude-ee!

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

1) Shut up.

....thank-you sir, may I have another?


Merry Christmas!

[TimTaylor]

Sure has been fun lurking and following the progress of this thread! (seriously, I was really busy today and this is the first chance I've had to check the board)

representing,

I hope you will take to heart what Smitty, Tomegun and a host of others have tried to explain to you - and I'm not referring to just in this thread, but others you have originated or participated in. Im sure it's not your intent, but some of your posts come across as a little "overly positive" in nature...and it really doesn't help when they're factually incorrect.

Reading and learning the rules is only a start - to become a good official you need to also comprehend them within the context of the game, and know how to apply them in various situations and circumstances. As others have said, this board can be a great learning resource.

A couple suggestions - take them or reject them as you choose:
1. Read voraciously and post sparingly
2. Don't post "factual" information unless you're 200% sure you're correct
3. Choose your words carefully - how you say something can be just as important as what you say

It appears you've gotten off a little on the wrong foot here, but it's not too late to correct that. Not a single official here has ever called a perfect game, but it's what we continually strive for - and an important part of that is learning from our mistakes.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

Sure has been fun lurking and following the progress of this thread! (seriously, I was really busy today and this is the first chance I've had to check the board)

representing,

I hope you will take to heart what Smitty, Tomegun and a host of others have tried to explain to you - and I'm not referring to just in this thread, but others you have originated or participated in. Im sure it's not your intent, but some of your posts come across as a little "overly positive" in nature...and it really doesn't help when they're factually incorrect.

Reading and learning the rules is only a start - to become a good official you need to also comprehend them within the context of the game, and know how to apply them in various situations and circumstances. As others have said, this board can be a great learning resource.

A couple suggestions - take them or reject them as you choose:
1. Read voraciously and post sparingly
2. Don't post "factual" information unless you're 200% sure you're correct
3. Choose your words carefully - how you say something can be just as important as what you say

It appears you've gotten off a little on the wrong foot here, but it's not too late to correct that. Not a single official here has ever called a perfect game, but it's what we continually strive for - and an important part of that is learning from our mistakes.

This is EXCELLENT advice. When I first started on here, I posted a couple of times when I wasn't sure about things and was corrected. I learned quickly that if I'm going to give advice or act like I know what I'm talking about, I had better be sure about it and able to back it up.

representing,
Like they said, read more (Rule and Case Books as well as this forum) and post less. If you're going to ask for advice, be receptive and listen. Oh yeah, I'd be shocked if you only had ONE bad game all of last season. I think most of us will admit to more than that in a season.

[Back In The Saddle]

representing,

Easy up, now. Do you need some smelling salts? How many fingers am I holding up? That was some *** kicking, eh?

We've all been there. No matter how much you study, some random Tuesday afternoon you run into a situation that takes you by surprise and you kick the crap out of it. That's when the learning really begins.

[representing]

Thanks to the last few posters. I appreciate it. Yes, I will calm down a bit and make sure I'm positive of certain calls.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You are wise beyond your years, Smitty....

Wow - that's the nicest thing you've ever said in responding to one of my posts. I appreciate it. Nice to see you posting in here again. Hope you stick around and post more.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I have called a T with .6 on the clock before and it was well deserved. How much time remained didn't matter one bit.

Heck, a few years ago I called a T on a senior in the final game of his career with 3 seconds left on the clock when they were losing by 20.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by representing

I couldn't care less about post counts. It only bothers me when someone thinks they own the forum and I look to see they've been on this site for several years and only have like 200 posts.

Post count doesn't necessarily equate to post quality.

Some people just do a lot of reading and only post when they have something different to add.

Some people don't have access to the site as frequently as others and by the time they get to to a thread, the topic is already well covered.