6.4.1 situation f

[Rita C]

A team member of Team A is detected dunking about five minutes before the game and a team member of B does the same thing about a minute later. RULING: The game will start with administration of the technical-foul free throws in the order in which the fouls were called. Team B shoots first followed by Team A. Team A will then be given the ball for a throw-in at the division line opposite the table. When the thrower of Team A is bounced the ball or it is placed at his/her disposal, the possession arrow will be set pointing toward Team B's basket.

Am I missing something? Shouldn't it be team A shooting first, then team B with the ball going to team B?

Rita

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rita C

A team member of Team A is detected dunking about five minutes before the game and a team member of B does the same thing about a minute later. RULING: The game will start with administration of the technical-foul free throws in the order in which the fouls were called. Team B shoots first followed by Team A. Team A will then be given the ball for a throw-in at the division line opposite the table. When the thrower of Team A is bounced the ball or it is placed at his/her disposal, the possession arrow will be set pointing toward Team B's basket.

Am I missing something? Shouldn't it be team A shooting first, then team B with the ball going to team B?

Rita

Team A dunked first, then team B dunked. Therefore, Team B will shoot first, then team A will shoot and get the ball.

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Team A dunked first, then team B dunked.

Then if they are to be administered in the order in which they were called, team A should be shooting first.

Rita

[mbyron]

Rita, which team shoots for A dunking?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rita C

Then if they are to be administered in the order in which they were called, team A should be shooting first.

Rita

No, team A dunked first, so team B shoots first.

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

No, team A dunked first, so team B shoots first.

Ok thanks, of course. I was just having a brain fart. Doh! I knew I wasn't getting something obvious.

Rita

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rita C

Ok thanks, of course. I was just having a brain fart. Doh! I knew I wasn't getting something obvious.

Rita

If you didn't recover soon, we were going to have Padgett send you some of his meds.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If you didn't recover soon, we were going to have Padgett send you some of his meds.

Brain fart meds? What's that, neuro-lax? Milk of cognesia?

[mbyron]

Forgot one: Pepto-Thinkmol?

[shishstripes]

These are also indirect T's on the coaches as well, since they are not players yet but bench personnel. So don't forget the seatbelt.

And the throw-in by A sets the AP arrow to B.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by shishstripes

These are also indirect T's on the coaches as well, since they are not players yet but bench personnel. So don't forget the seatbelt.

And the throw-in by A sets the AP arrow to B.

This is just a test, but when does the arrow get set?

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by Rita C

Ok thanks, of course. I was just having a brain fart. Doh! I knew I wasn't getting something obvious.

Rita

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No, Rita, I would actually bet that most people read it the way you did until they stop and picture going through the actual motions of it. I know I did... even though I know that when it came time to administer them the sequence would be correct.

[shishstripes]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

This is just a test, but when does the arrow get set?

It's an interesting question because if it's set when the throw-in ends, what if the opponent gains control on the throw-in?

I believe it gets set when the ball is at the disposal of the thrower in this situation. Case play?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by shishstripes

It's an interesting question because if it's set when the throw-in ends, what if the opponent gains control on the throw-in?

This wouldn't matter, as it happens often anyway during AP throwins.
As long as the ball is legally touched, the throwin ends and the arrow gets reversed.
It does matter, however, in case there is a held ball on the first touch, or the thrower reaches the ball across the plane and the defender ties it up, or there is a foul before the throwin ends.

Originally Posted by shishstripes

I believe it gets set when the ball is at the disposal of the thrower in this situation. Case play?

Rule ref. 4-3-3 "...The ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower."