Similar to Welpe's situation

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by representing

It was in close game and the excitement was high for everyone. I just couldn't wait for the game to be over...

I know this might sound harsh, but maybe officiating isn't for you. What I'm hearing (actually reading) is an official who 1) possibly got caught up in the emotion of the game and 2) an official who possibly compromised the game because he or she was ready to go home. I come to that conclusion from your words above.

I have called a T with .6 on the clock before and it was well deserved. How much time remained didn't matter one bit.

[representing]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I know this might sound harsh, but maybe officiating isn't for you. What I'm hearing (actually reading) is an official who 1) possibly got caught up in the emotion of the game and 2) an official who possibly compromised the game because he or she was ready to go home. I come to that conclusion from your words above.

I have called a T with .6 on the clock before and it was well deserved. How much time remained didn't matter one bit.

How dare you?! You don't even ****ing know me. I had one bad game last year, that was it. Officiating is my primary job right now, I don't do anything else. It is one of the things I love to do the most.

You say time doesn't matter, neither does it matter to me. if there's .01 second left on a clock and a coach says something to me, I'll T him up even if he's down by 50!

That's it, end of discussion, I'm done for now. I got a game tonight and will be back on afterward if anything unusual comes up.

[chartrusepengui]

apparently this was one of the bad ones

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by representing

How dare you?! You don't even ****ing know me. I had one bad game last year, that was it. Officiating is my primary job right now, I don't do anything else. It is one of the things I love to do the most.

You say time doesn't matter, neither does it matter to me. if there's .01 second left on a clock and a coach says something to me, I'll T him up even if he's down by 50!

That's it, end of discussion, I'm done for now. I got a game tonight and will be back on afterward if anything unusual comes up.

Now that you have shown some passion for the game, read what you wrote again. I didn't make my comments based on anything other than what you said.

If you really want to end the discussion I think the OP has the ability to delete a thread. But I hope you didn't think I would read what you wrote and think the discussion was over. Sorry if I upset you.

[representing]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Now that you have shown some passion for the game, read what you wrote again. I didn't make my comments based on anything other than what you said.

If you really want to end the discussion I think the OP has the ability to delete a thread. But I hope you didn't think I would read what you wrote and think the discussion was over. Sorry if I upset you.

No, I knew it was going to get some responses. And I apologize for flipping out like that.

I know I said "I couldn't wait for the game to be over" but I didn't mean it as in "hey, let's get this game over and head to the bar asap!". I meant it as in "once this game is over I can go back to the locker room and just relax". But like you gave the T in .6 seconds left, if something came up with just seconds left, then I would have dealt with it regardless of a close game or not. I can't remember if it was a close game or not, but since I'm remembering emotions were high, I'm assuming it was a pretty close game.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by representing

No, I knew it was going to get some responses. And I apologize for flipping out like that.

I know I said "I couldn't wait for the game to be over" but I didn't mean it as in "hey, let's get this game over and head to the bar asap!". I meant it as in "once this game is over I can go back to the locker room and just relax". But like you gave the T in .6 seconds left, if something came up with just seconds left, then I would have dealt with it regardless of a close game or not. I can't remember if it was a close game or not, but since I'm remembering emotions were high, I'm assuming it was a pretty close game.

I admit to being a literal person a lot and you continue to confuse me. You are saying you would deal with a situation regardless, but this whole thread is based on a situation you had that you did NOT deal with. Is there something I'm missing?

[representing]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I admit to being a literal person a lot and you continue to confuse me. You are saying you would deal with a situation regardless, but this whole thread is based on a situation you had that you did NOT deal with. Is there something I'm missing?

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't deal with it then because at the time I didn't know exactly when that player is a bench player and didn't want to wrongfully make the coach sit. I was talking with my partner and the V officials after the game about it. I'm going to be honest about what i would have done, but I now know this isn't correct.

report personal foul
report technical foul
indirect technical to the coach (when table let me know player had 5 fouls, I would've said to the coach that this is his 5th foul, and he had to sit because he was a benched player during the technical situation)
coach sits
two team fouls total for both personal and technical
fouled shooter gets 2 FT, team gets 2 FT
Ball at half-court.

That is what I would have done, but now I know that everything is correct except for the indirect technical to coach and that he sits. I also probably should give the player a flagrant technical foul instead of a technical. Then, the ball would be taken out-of-bounds underneath the basket to the team who just shot the free-throws because of the flagrant foul.

does this clear things up (not sarcastic)?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by representing

I also probably should give the player a flagrant technical foul instead of a technical. Then, the ball would be taken out-of-bounds underneath the basket to the team who just shot the free-throws because of the flagrant foul.

does this clear things up (not sarcastic)?

Oh boy. It clarifies something but not what you were hoping for.

[rsl]

Originally Posted by representing

the ball would be taken out-of-bounds underneath the basket to the team who just shot the free-throws because of the flagrant foul.

The throw-in following the technical foul would be administered at the division line.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by representing

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't deal with it then because at the time I didn't know exactly when that player is a bench player and didn't want to wrongfully make the coach sit. I was talking with my partner and the V officials after the game about it. I'm going to be honest about what i would have done, but I now know this isn't correct.

report personal foul
report technical foul
indirect technical to the coach (when table let me know player had 5 fouls, I would've said to the coach that this is his 5th foul, and he had to sit because he was a benched player during the technical situation)
coach sits
two team fouls total for both personal and technical
fouled shooter gets 2 FT, team gets 2 FT
Ball at half-court.

That is what I would have done, but now I know that everything is correct except for the indirect technical to coach and that he sits. I also probably should give the player a flagrant technical foul instead of a technical. Then, the ball would be taken out-of-bounds underneath the basket to the team who just shot the free-throws because of the flagrant foul.

does this clear things up (not sarcastic)?

Didn't you indicate that the player bumped you before you reported the personal foul? If so, above in red is not correct.

And I don't have a clue how you came up with this.

[tomegun]

It doesn't really clear things up because I wasn't looking for step-by-step actions. You either do or you don't.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I have called a T with .6 on the clock before and it was well deserved. How much time remained didn't matter one bit.

Heck, a few years ago I called a T on a senior in the final game of his career with 3 seconds left on the clock when they were losing by 20.